The Renaissance of Juventus

By: agiamba | March 12th, 2010
   

The comprehensive 3-1 win over Fulham confirmed Juve’s return to form under Zaccheroni. Following a slow start with draws against Lazio and Livorno, the team has won 4 of the last 5 games, with a woeful defeat against Palermo as the exception. An exception, I say, because it was an aberration caused by injuries and fatigue, and oh yeah, against an excellent rising Palermo. Credit to Palermo for the win, they played compact and tactical, but our bench was decimated and everyone on the pitch had played 90 just 3 days before. With a bit of rotation and a few more days of rest, the team was raring to go against Fulham, and it showed. Determined, tactical, everything aspect we hoped went our way, barring a bit of bad luck. Full review after the jump.

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Manninger and Zebina practicing their staring-down face

First thought- Legrottaglie should indisputably be starting alongside Chiellini now, for Juventus and the Nazionale. I’ve been saying this for a while now, and yes, I have always been a big fan of Legro, but I think even his doubters are being convinced. Cannavaro had a good game yesterday, don’t get me wrong, but Legrottaglie was better. I was impressed at how the two worked together, the Legro-Canna partnership has failed pretty badly in the past as they are the same old style of defenders, though Legrottaglie is better in the air. (That’s what 4 inches will do for you) I said in 2007-2008 that Legro-Chiellini should be the CB partnership for the Nazionale, and with Nesta out, I think the same way. There are some solid young CB’s out there- Bonucci, Bocchetti, Ranocchia, but they are all a bit green to be starting in the WC this summer.

Legrottaglie and Chiellini have the chemistry- on two occasions, last summer and on his Twitter chat, Chiellini said the words “Cannavaro is a great player but Legrottaglie I can play with my eyes shut,” and whether Legro is individually better than Canna (I think he has been for the last 2-3 years) the fact is Legro-Chiellini together is much stronger than Chiellini-Cannavaro. However, the two could not have any more different histories and that’s why this won’t happen- Cannavaro is the World Cup-winning captain of the National team, the most capped player of all time. Legrottaglie is still mostly remembered as being an epic bust for Juventus, a player who was supposed to be a national team regular but disappeared. In both cases, it ain’t 2004 anymore, but Lippi has his own ideas.

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LE PAGELLE: (Gazzetta’s here:)

Manninger: 6.5- Solid save on Hangeland and generally looked assured out there. A few games under his belt, and he doesn’t look rusty anymore. The world’s best #2.

Zebina: 7- This was his first goal for Juventus, and his 2nd goal in the last 12 years, possibly his 2nd of his career if Wikipedia is right, though that doesn’t count cup games. What a freaking goal, I was laughing uncontrollably in disbelief for about 30 seconds after he scored. So was Bettega, it looked like. Not only did he score a brilliant goal, he held his own in defense. A great game, and the Gazzetta named him MOTM. We have officially entered the Twilight Zone.
Cannavaro: 6.5- Zamora is pacey and strong, but between Legrottaglie and himself, they locked him up. There were a few moments where he showed his age, but otherwise, a strong performance that Canna can be happy with.
Legrottaglie: 7- A great aerial threat on set pieces as usual, and defensively was excellent. Nearly a perfect performance, only marred by picking up a yellow for handball that will see him miss the 2nd leg. Other than his goal, the thing I remember about his performance best was an excellent sliding tackle in the box, timed to perfection while running alongside a Fulham player following a cross from Zamora. I’ve sung his praises, though I agree we need to get a top-tier CB this summer. Legro shouldn’t be starting, but as a reserve to step in, he’ll be excellent, and I’m sure he will be a good locker room influence and mentor for some of the young kids.
Grosso: 6 The worst of the defenders, but that is not a bad thing given the others performances. His crossing is still pretty poor, he never seems to lift the ball enough, and if there is one lesson I was taught as a fullback, it’s that your cross/set-piece/etc HAS TO BEAT the first defender. If it doesn’t, it is a complete waste. A good volley-effort on goal that an excellent Schwarzer save denied him from joining the old-man-defense-goleador club. How ironic would it have been if Grosso, Zebina, and Legro had all scored after many of us (myself included) wondered about the age of our defense?

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Marchisio: 7- I’ve given him an extra .5, given the circumstances. For the two days before the match, Marchisio was in bed all day with a fever. You could tell he wasn’t at his physical best, but he distributed well, tackled well, and played excellent as the midfield general. If it weren’t for a heavy 2nd touch, he would have scored an excellent goal as well. Loved seeing him given the captain’s armband, when you think about players like Aquilani and Montolivo who are inconsistent and basically need to grow up, it makes Marchisio’s progress look astounding. If you’d told me back in Serie B (or even when he was at Empoli in 07-08) that only 2-3 years later, he’d be a regular starter, on the national team, and wearing the captain’s armband, I’d have given you the same look as if you told me yesterday morning that Zebina was going to score a wondergoal.
Poulsen: 7- Like Marchisio, an extra .5 for the circumstances. Due to the suspension of Melo and Sissoko being in doubt, Poulsen was drafted in to start, his first since breaking his ankle in early January against Milan. That’s what I cannot understand- How can the recovery time for BREAKING an ankle be the same as twisting an ankle, which Trezeguet did just a few days before Poulsen? Anyways, a tidy and neat display- In the first half, Poulsen played excellently, recovering balls, passing smart and simple (eyes on you two, Melo and Sissoko) and played his mediano role very well. In the 2nd half he obviously tired, but given he hasn’t played football in two months, that is perfectly excusable.
Salihamidzic: 5.5- He’s really not made out to play as a central midfielder, where his games are not poor, but not really that good either. He’s simply not at his best there, but against Fulham it was an adequate display nonetheless, and perhaps most importantly, kept Camo on the bench for the first half.

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Candreva: 6- Nice footwork to retain possession for Zebina’s goal, and playing trequartista alongside Diego, he played fairly well, though not spectacular. Pushed out left as the game went on, like Marchisio, he is far less effective as a winger.
Diego: 6- Similar performance to Candreva, relatively subdued but adequate enough. Still, Giovinco needs to come back and hopefully give Diego a break, as today was another 90minute performance. Good dipping shot on goal towards the end of the game, and excellent deliveries from corners.

Trezeguet: 7- In recent weeks, just like the beginning of the season, people have questioned whether Trez was past it. Today’s performance showed what I’ve been arguing…you lose pace with age, maybe strength, but not the poacher’s mindset. Had a very good header on target that Schwarzer pushed out for a corner that Legrottaglie scored on, and he was playing as the target man excellently, trapping passes up top and retaining possession. His goal, the more and more I watch it, is just sheer genius. Watch as the corner is booted in, he positions himself perfectly- he knows where the ball is going to go. Then, of course, he smacks his volley against the post, and somehow, in the milliseconds of reaction time given, as he’s off balance and falling over, volleys it again into the net. Genius goal, and as Roberto said, “The fucker slammed it off the post on purpose, i’m convinced.”

Zaccheroni: 7.5- Juventus looked determined, composed, and tactically sound. It was an excellent team performance, and given it and the win over Fiorentina, there is spreading rumors that Zac will be retained for next year. He’s taking it well, saying- ““I won’t speak about the future because it isn’t part of our current objectives. Now my objective is only to beat Fulham and I hope to be able to look every three days at the next objective until the end of the season.” Marchisio and Diego could have been subbed off, but Poulsen and Brazzo needed to come off as well, and he wanted to give Iaquinta a little run out, so no major objections.

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Candreva goes for the less conventional goal congratulation, by sucker punching Zebina when he’s not looking

Things I think I think:
#1- Team Eats- I think the loss to Palermo was because I didn’t participate that game- my friend was in town so I didn’t catch the game until on delay, and I was eating traditional New Orleans food with him, not Sicilian. Other than that, since starting with Genoa, we’ve gotten positive results everytime. English breakfast was solid. How was everyone’s bangers and mash?
#2- Roberto, pre-match: “3-1 Juventus… completely baseless.” Obviously not baseless…
#3- Fulham didn’t play particularly well, and I was a bit surprised given Hodgson’s experience, it didn’t seem like he had given them explicit instructions. As some have mentioned around here though, I find Fulham one of the least objectionable EPL teams. Maybe it’s because of the Yanks that have played at Craven Cottage, or maybe because their fans and players are generally pretty classy, I don’t know for sure.
#4- Fulham’s Goal: That was the definition of a (legal) bullshit goal. Non-existent foul given against Zebina because he outjumped Zamora, so a poor call, followed by a poor set piece delivery, and an even worse shot. That was going horrendously wide before it took the luckiest deflection ever, completely changing paths and leaving Manninger with no chance. Things were going very well, and Fulham had one shot on target before the goal, a weak one. The only thing I didn’t like about the game was the reaction to Fulham’s goal…we looked unsure, shaky, and it was like all those games where after conceding, we look defeated. It was an intense 10 minutes where we weathered Fulham’s best efforts, thanks to Manninger, among others.

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“Something stinks.”

#5- The result: Zac said he wished the scoreline was larger, and it should have been. If not for Schwarzer proving keepers are like fine wine, we would have won 5-1 or more. If not for the bad luck goal, it could easily have been 4-0. Does this get us into the quarterfinals? Not necessarily, but I think we have a toe in. It would take a very, very poor game for us to crash out at this stage. My Newcastle co-worker says typically, Fulham are defensively sound, great at defending set pieces, but don’t score too often. The previous two didn’t happen, let’s hope the third remains true. An early goal at Fulham means they need to score 3.
#6- Next up is either Valencia or interestingly for Diego, Werder Bremen. They drew in Valencia 1-1 in a result that favors Werder, but either team is dangerous. Personally, I’d rather face Valencia- Villa, Silva, Joaquin and all are scary, but we own Spanish teams. Chiellini has marked Villa out before, and Valencia lost to Atletico Madrid 4-1 a few weeks ago, they aren’t entirely fear-inspiring. Added bonus for all of you constantly calculating and recalculating Germany and Italy’s UEFA coefficients, that’d be one German team out and an Italian progression.
#7- As Romanista Alto pointed in the comments- thus far this season, Serie A teams have beaten EPL teams 5 times this season, with 1 draw, and two losses, both of which were Milan getting crushed by ManYoo. Not bad.
#8- We won, comprehensively, without these players playing a significant role- Melo, Sissoko, Camoranesi, Iaquinta, Del Piero, Chiellini, or Buffon. That is reassuring. Sure, it’s a midtable EPL team but you know what? We’ve looked far shittier against relegation-battling teams in Italy, it’s not like we routinely play this well against midtable Serie A clubs either. I’m satisfied.
#9- Lastly, JZ’s celebration was hilarious. He couldn’t believe he scored it either, and he had no idea what to do- Watch the ITV video below, first he starts to take his shirt off, then realizes oh that’s a yellow early in the game, then stands there for a second confused, and then either picks his nose or tells the tifosi to be quiet. Brilliant.

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SHIRT OFF, NO WAIT, BAD IDEA

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WAIT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

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PICK MY NOSE

The Coaching Merry-go-Round:

With Fiorentina crashing out of Europe this week, a lot have suggested that it’s time for Prandelli to move on. Blanc denies being in contact with him, but I am sure we’ve asked him if he’d like the job. Prandelli is a very good candidate of course, and while I wouldn’t discount Allegri or Gasparini, it’s increasingly looking like it’ll be Zac v. Prandelli for the job next year. Of course, Cesare is up possibly for the Nazionale gig and there’s rumors he’s ready to sign a contract extension to quiet all the rumors. Does Zaccheroni deserve the job? He’s done very well to turn the team around, morale is high and we look like we’re forming an identity, though of course there’s all to play for, depending on how far we go in the Europa League and if we finish in the CL places. If he gets us to the Europa League final and in at least 4th place, I think he deserves it.

Alessio’s The Juventus Offside Shitlist:
-Amauri: (3 Weeks)
-Cannavaro: (2 Weeks) Provisionally off the list, with a very good performance, though another poor one will see him get dropped back on.
-Chimenti: (2 Week) Because he’s a muppet, and Grygera and Amauri need some company.
-Grygera: (3 Weeks)
-Zebina: (2 Weeks) In Florence, Grosso and Candreva learned that they had been added to the JOS, and clearly that was the motivation that produced their inspired performance. Last week, I added Zebina and retroactively added a week because as you all know, I don’t like him. Obviously, the same thing transpired and he was driven to play well to get off the list. Job done, sir, but in the words of Yul Brenner, this doesn’t mean I like you.

Zuliani’s narration on the radio, if you’re interested:
ITV Goals: (ITV actually has smart English commentators)
Legrottaglie
Zebina
Etuhu
Trezeguet

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Mourinho’s reaction to Muntari losing the Catania game for Inter (not really, this is from last week)

Siena at home this weekend…let’s hope the ragazzi keep the good form going!


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  • Gaetano
    I agree with you jorid but one of those two (melo/sissoko) will get a red. Imo Marchisio, if fit will be a better link to the attack.

    ...also Legro may be back.

    When is giorgio back????WE need him like we have never before!
  • Mario
    when was the last we saw a bianconieri youth product wore the captain's armband? hope he keeps up his good performances
  • Sofia
    Signing Ribery would be the biggest mistake after buying Tiago, Amauri, Melo and the rest of Secco's crew of incompetent losers. I am really over this guy and his unnecessary buys. Hopefully Bettega will step in and tell Secco to sit down, shut up and hang up the phone with Bayern. 3 words - Young. Italian. Players.
  • Grande Juventus
    80 million? WOW!

    Kjaer for (Amauri+5-10million), Caceres (permanently), Marco Motta, Candreva (50% of his contract), Criscito, Pazzini, Michel Bastos and recall Ekdal. Sell Melo if we can get over 15 million for him we already have Sissoko and Poulsen.
  • Sam
    What about a striker? De Ceglie has to e future left back, he needs to develop in that position, so no need to buy one.
  • Jose
    Agree Rinaldo. I am perfectly comfortable making Immobile our "summer signing" for the striker position. Only if we spend most of our money on defense we can challenge for the scudetto. I would love to see Maggio or Marco Motta in RB but given Secco's record, we might buy Molinaro from Stuttgart for the RB position. I disagree with the Bonucci signing, if he rather play for Inter then he can sit and wait for the phone call, Juve is too big a club to take players that rather be somewhere else.
  • Rinaldo
    ...PERIOD.
  • Rinaldo
    Defense will be PDC/Grosso-Chiellini/Ariaudo-Kjaer/Legrotaglie-Caceres/Zebina/Grygera. And we have 20 million to spare.

    And, personally, I'd like us to spend a chunk of that 20 million on strengthening the LB spot, and maybe even get a backup for Caceres. Zebina needs to go,
  • Rinaldo
    If we indeed have more than a $50m budget, then we really should make a serious push for Kjaer. If these are just Tuttosport rumors, I'd go for Bonucci or Ranocchia, the former's soft spot for Inter notwithstanding.
  • ked
    $80 mil huh?...I'm pretty sure most of that will be given to Bayern Munich.
  • Jose
    I have read two interviews with Bonucci saying that if he has to choose between Juve and Inter he would rather play for Juve. I don't care how good this kid is, if he rather play for Inter I think we have no business looking at him for next season. I want Kjaer at Juve next season, we can give Amauri back to Zamparini + money. Kjaer wants to play regularly and he will get that at Juve since we are looking at buying a starting line-up defender. He also seems more hungry compared to Bonucci and I think will be a long partnership with Chiellini.

    If we have 40m for next market I would get Kjaer and get rid of Amauri and buy Caceres, this would cost us about 20m tops. Defense will be PDC/Grosso-Chiellini/Ariaudo-Kjaer/Legrotaglie-Caceres/Zebina/Grygera. And we have 20 million to spare.
  • Ivo
    Wow, what a second half Napoli & Fiorentina played today. Napoli goes up immediately, has another two really good chances to go up 2-0, and when they fuck em up Gila pulls one back and then another a little later to make it 1-2. JoJo hits an empty-netter.

    Good job Fiorentina, that helped us out on the table. Lets crush Siena tomorrow! Forza JUVE!

    P.S. FSC is not showing the game so I can't record it.
  • al
    napoli beaten by fiorentina, 1-3. good results for us. let's hope that both bianconneri teams win tomorrow :)
  • I am not here to troll
    yeah, yeah, yeah alessio and Ovrebo is a good referee
  • Blanda_Amania
    Sounds like Zac's going on history for the Siena lineup. He's feeling a positive outcome with ADP starting since he's scored in previous matches against them and hopes to rest Diego. Diego needs a mini vaca and a mani/pedi. He's been rode hard. He mentions Gio and Caceres not having trained with the group this week, like Sofia says, which sucks and makes me wonder what the heck happened to them. He says "...All the others need match practice and I must consider whether to field them from the start or durig the match", so that sucks too because it means Gio would have played today, no? Poor kid.
  • Comrade
    Games are going to be one hour later. Kickoff time is 9:00 am CST (10:00 EST).
  • Gaetano
    "Ribery? He is a great player, one of the best in the world: someone like him is always welcome. It would be great. Quality players have the characteristics to play well together."

    quoted from diego.

    He needs to just shut his mouth. I hate that he talks so much crap.

    imo.. We definitely shouldn t buy ribery.
  • dweb
    for the viola-napoli game today, i want to root for fiorentina bc napoli is pushing for 4th as well. but there is something about this napoli team that makes me love them. maybe its hamsik
  • Jorid
    hant00: LOL. That article is from Tuttosport. According to them, Messi is going to rescind his contract in June and join us on a free. ;) We will not have 80 million available, most likely 40 like you said. I swear, if our idiotic board is seriously thinking about wasting even 15 million on Ribery, even for a mere second...
  • Mexes is an average defender, prone to brilliance and also awful fuckups. He lets his temper get to him. There's better defenders out there, plus Mexes is Roma through-and-through, so no thanks. Welcome back, hant00!

    Remember for the Siena game about Daylight Savings Time turning on (or off, I never can remember) so the time will be either an hour earlier or later. I can never keep DST stuff straight. Also, no idea if the US is being dumb and changing on our own again, or if it applies to other countries as well. Moral of the story: Myp2p.eu
  • j
    hey bettega is here, to keep dear secco in line, i'm quite sure there will be lesser or no nonsenses this time round

    i think i can see why tuttopsort is a blabbering nonsenses media outlet. buffon is not for sale, unless he wants out himself. how is mexes? i always buy him in Championship Manager a few years, he sits on the bench now right, is he good?
  • Guest
    http://www.football-italia.net...

    i'd rather have just 40mil, even 30, and give the rest to secco so he could have a lengthy holiday or early retirement or whatever and not ruin our mercato. again.

    as for inter cl issue, my take is that true juve fan should never support inter. plus, i'm no italian, so i wouldn't have any pragmatism concerning the loss of 4th spot.

    ahh.. so good to be around again. i see that this blog is getting even better. excellent work, guys!
  • Sofia
    Zac said Caceres and Giovinco aren't even training yet. That doesn't sound good...
  • Robee, thanks for the clarification. I'd never would have guessed that, that's why it's great to have you as our resident physio expert!
  • Daniel
    If you take in consideration the final standings of Serie A, 74 points (10 more victories) means the 3rd place is assured, maybe even 2nd.
  • Jorid
    o_man: Beautiful comment.
  • Sofia
    0_man - I agree. I know Serie A needs another spot, but I'm sorry I could never bring myself to support Inter. Ever. Milan and Fiorentina I could because I actually have respect for them. Inter I have no respect for, so I do hope that Chelsea kick their ass. Plus, how Italian is Inter really??
  • o_man
    fuck italy and serie A,siamo la Juve amici di nessuno. the whole country calls us cheaters and you want inter to win chelsea for the serie A??
  • Robee
    Don't know if someone actually said it here, but bones recuperate much faster (and better) than ligaments. So it's actually quite normal. Ligaments take much time or heal only partly...

    I'm still wondering what Giovinco has and how long it will take for him to be back. I miss the boy's contributions, if only for a few minutes. I'd like to see what Zac does when Seba and Camo are fit. Then we'll see what Zac and Seba are actually made off, if you ask me.
  • J, I think Zac has done well long enough that I think we can see his ideas better. Ferrara has one very successful month, and then it all went downhill. Ill of course wait till May, but if the regeneration under Zac continues...I like the idea of signing him.

    Also agree that Zebina > Grygera, but Caceres > Zebina.
  • j
    yea! the troll is back! no wonder i feel weird these few days, where have you been, homeworks? do drop by more often.

    i loved this comment, "...I’d have given you the same look as if you told me yesterday morning that Zebina was going to score a wondergoal." lol.

    anyway is it just me, but zebina > grygera, grygera seem less likely to provide a spark, just a normal fullback, well at least he does his basics right.

    any bets on zebina being back on the shitlist? is his contract up this june/july or the next? well, dont be fooled either way, he's out.

    i'm a bit sceptical of giving zac extension, after ciro, we are out of coaches, and we dont want to be tied down for 2-3 years with a gamble.
  • Stefano
    Zebina hasn't scored for so long that he's forgotten how to celebrate! LOL at his reaction! as crappy as he is, that was still a good goal and a timely one. kudos to the midfield, Manninger and the CBs. It's a great step forward for everyone. glad to see Marchisio with wearing the armband. He's bianconero through and through and deserved it
  • Jorid
    We'd get 3rd place?
  • Gaetano
    What would happen if our team wins the next 10 serie a games?
  • Jorid
    What Ale said is so true. Serie A's dominance began in the mid to late 80's, peaked in the 90's with Milan and Juve sharing the titles domestically and doing very well in Europe also, continued so up until the 03 season where 3/4 teams in the C.L semis were Italian, and took a nosedive ever since...
  • Coincidentally, Serie A's glory days were all about Juventus winning the Scudetto, and Inter wallowing around in shit.
  • Faisal
    gonna have to agree with sam... Serie A needs to get back to the glory days
  • Sam
    Hell no i hope Inter win Italy needs it! As much as ia hate Inter it is needed.
  • Blanda_Amania
    I'm having a stressful day so I came back to watch Zebina score and celebrate again. My spirit is lifted. :)
  • Jorid
    Gaetano: Fuck that lol. Hope they lose, get humiliated and knocked the fuck out.
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