SGRADITO!
By: alessio | April 19th, 2009
Mai alla Juve!
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It doesnt matter cause it would never happen anyway..
But I sure as hell wouldnt want him if I were you guys
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Yeah I do not want him at all. Should he arrive (shudder) I hope Ranieri plays Legro-Chiellini ahead of him. Legro is in decent form, probably better than Cannavaro right now and both stayed for our season in Serie B, not ditching for a nice contract with Real fucking Madrid.
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Cannavaro may have a better, cleaner tackle,but he’s not half the man Sissoko is.
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OOOh, He decided to go play at Real Madrid in Spain instead of playing in Serie B with Juve.
Spare me the righteous indignation.
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Just a question, how about putting Sissoko in as a center back with Chiellini? It would open up a space in midfield so Giovinco can get more time also. Dont know if it would work though.
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And i would rather Cannavaro stayed with us when we were relegated, but i’m not really mad he did, and i wouldnt call him a traitor. Ibrahimovic on the other hand is a different story. Moving to a team on another country (Cannavaro to Real Madrid) is different than moving to your former teams fierce rival (Ibrahimovic to Inter). Cannavaro would also make a good addition to the team, and then we could get rid of Mellberg and Knezevic, and Ariaudo would hopefully get some time to develop too, to become the future of the Juve defense. Plus he’s free. Also, it would be stupid to reject a former Ballon D’Or winner for free, even if he is past his prime.
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guys on a totally different note… torino seem to be headed for the the axe this season… should Juve pinch Rosina from them? he is really the most under-rated player in Serie A
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alessio, explain me something why aren’t you blaming ranieri for any of our problems!!!
and when someone attack him, you always stay for Ranieri’s side!!!
It’s always Secco, reffs, Moratti, or luck!!!
Well its not it, it’s Ranieri!!!
Stop deffending that guy, cuz soon he’ll be history, or maybe you are waiting for that, and than youll start you’r critics over his tactics (o wait there aro no tactics in his game, there is “A TACTIC”!!!Sorry about LAME ENGLISH!!!
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rosina? i think he’s heading for inter instead
otherwise, i don’t know much about him, is he more of a winger or an attacking midfielder?
and i wouldn’t take canna over mellberg, sure he made that one fatal mistake but he’s been quite decent this season (his first season!), a good backup neverthelessPosted from
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sissoko as chiellini’s partner? i don’t know…might just work
i thought we’re gonna clone some sissokos to fill in our injured players…Posted from
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OOOh, He decided to go play at Real Madrid in Spain instead of playing in Serie B with Juve.
Yeah, that says something. I have no problem with it if he´s a Napolitano, he gave us a few good years and went to a rival, thanks for everything, have a good career. But to come back? Fuck no. He doesn´t deserve a contract with us. If he wanted to play and fight for titles with Juve, he´d have stayed. Nedved has always dreamed of winning the Champion´s League…yet he went to Serie B, knowing at the VERY minimum, it would be 2 years before he´d even have a shot at it again. No thanks.
We don´t need Rosina, we have our own young fantasista, from Turin. I´ve never been impressed by him either, somethings always lacking from his game; commitment, drive, whatever. Maybe it´s because he´s stuck with Underachieving FC but he´s the captain…never seen him take a game and change it.
Adissjuve, blame Ranieri for what? I think he´s made mistakes, but I think we´d be in this position with almost every other coach we would have hired.
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Also, it would be stupid to reject a former Ballon D’Or winner for free, even if he is past his prime.
Someone ask the Milanistas how Sheva is doing.
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Yeha i agree Alessio!
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Some voices of reason.
Juventus legends Beppe Furino and Jose Altafini have reacted rather coldly to rumours suggesting the Bianconeri will re-sign Fabio Cannavaro.
Cannavaro, who left Juventus for Real Madrid in the wake of the Calciopoli scandal in 2006, has reportedly been offered a four-year deal – one as a player and three as a director.
“I heard about Cannavaro and I didn’t want to believe it,” Furino wrote in La Gazzetta dello Sport. “We won’t discuss his achievements as a player, he is a world champion, but the years catch up with everyone. “If Cannavaro is a sure thing at no cost whatsoever then bring him on, but there are other players that Juventus need to close the gap in Italy and in Europe. “Have the fans forgotten the so-called “betrayal” of three years ago? Footballers are professionals, Cannavaro’s decision to go to Real Madrid was based on money,” Furino explained.
Altafini was equally critical of Juventus’ decision to go back to the future and think about entrusting their defence to the 36-year-old Italy captain.
“Why don’t they re-sign Zinedine Zidane as well?” Altafini said scathingly. “They need a central midfield! I don’t see how Cannavaro alone can resolve Juventus’ defensive problems. Age counts more in defence than in any other position and Juventus’ backline is already slow.
“The politics of not spending will not pay off if we want to keep up with Inter,” Altafini explained. “It will take an aggressive and courageous transfer campaign to overtake the Nerazzurri. As for the defence, Giorgio Chiellini has had a great season, as has Nicola Legrottaglie, so Juventus don’t have a problem at centre-back.
“What would it take for Juventus to support them with a youngster, someone like Simon Kjaer, the Dane from Palermo? Napoli President Aurelio De Laurentiis, was a little tough on Cannavaro a few weeks ago, but he painted a reality – 36 years are a lot and if Napoli, his hometown club, aren’t willing to take him, well…” Altafini concluded.
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Cannavaro is clearly not the same player as 2006. Age plus an ankle injury have slowly worn him down. So if you’re looking for a centre back who will dominate week in week out, then Canna is not that player.
But he will bring so many intagibles to the team. Every defender in the Juve squad will improve by training and playing alongside him. And since I consider defensive depth to be one of Juve weaknesses, that kind of impact is necessary.
Is he a traitor? From my perspective it was the club who betrayed the players. Those Juve teams were good enough to win Serie A without any help, but some people in the office were so small they couldn’t face the possibilty of losing. Maybe players like Nedved are heros for staying on, but he’s retiring without having won the CL. At least Canna still wants to return and compete for the CL. I don’t see how he can be considered a traitor. If someone who leaves a team after its corrupt management costs them a couple of titles is a traitor, then 90% of professional footballers are traitors.
Picking him up on a free transfer makes a lot of sense. I think he’ll play better in Italy than he did at Real Madrid.
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It’s a complicated decision (not the “sissoko playing as a defender” one, unless we want to concede 10 penalties per game). We need reinforcement in defense, that’s for sure, and even if Canavaro is past his best, he is still a fairly good defender (and if he is playing badly, Chiellini can always injure him again just like he did before the Euros).
I know we don’t like goal.com, but this article (http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/4/20/1219447/calcio-debate-fabio-cannavaro-to-juventus-good-or-bad-move) made some really good points. One of them is that he would be a free transfer, and if we can get him to have low salary, we could use the money to buy a world class defender.
Right now we only have 3 central defenders (Andrade is no longer with us… he never really was :s) with experience in Serie A: Chiellini, Legro and Mellberg (and two of them are not scudetto material, just second place 10 points behind material), and granted that Ariaudo is a promissing player, we can’t really hope to win the Scudetto or Champions League (don’t even think about the 2 of them), without at least 2 good reinforcements in defense (central defense, our fullback are a headache on their own)… or a “fairly good one” (Canavaro) and the second best defender in the world (whoever he is, Chiellini is the first).
We don’t have all the money in the World to buy all the player we need to really try to win a major trophy next year. With Nedved retiring (life isn’t fair) we are reducing our monthly wages by 5 millions? (4 maybe?), and if we save money buying a Canavaro, so we can spend it in a great player (not Mellbergs, who isn’t that bad but is not good enough; not Poulsen’s, who is really bad but had not that bad season), I’ll take Canavaro.
Personally, I never considered Canavaro a traitor. He just isn’t a hero, not everyone can be (and I think going to Real Madrid is way better than going to Inter, with everyone knowing they played a huge part in Calciopoli).
Having said all this (sorry for the length), we shouldn’t take Canavaro as we did with Mellberg last year: instead of a world class defender. He should be an addition, someone who could share his experience with the youngsters (like Nedved did with De Ceglie and Marchisio this year… and NO!, Legro has no experience to share because he was a pretty bad defender until a few years ago), not a regular starter. But lets face it, Secco won’t get a world class defender (not because there are not, there are a few but their clubs won’t let them go away… and because he is Secco), so that’s the risk for me here, not Canavaro having a bad season (because we shouldn’t found our defense in him), but Secco not getting us the defender we REALLY NEED.
And last but not least… If we want to win something next season there are two big changes we will have to implement (assuming we are not changing Ranieri or Secco), play with a 4-3-1-2 with Giovinco as the “1″, and stop using that offside trap that cost us the scudetto this year. With a 4-3-1-2 you can’t play with a high defense (in which Canavaro wouldn’t be able to play anyway, because of his lack of speed).
In a nutshell (really sorry about the length), we can bring Canavaro if: we get a world class defender, we change our tactics, and Secco grows a brain (or at least a killer instinct before the end of the season), because one player won’t solve all of our problems.
Canavaro won’t be a hero, he will just be a good player who will have to work a lot for the best team in the World. We already have plenty of heroes, we need (good) workers too.
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If someone who leaves a team after its corrupt management costs them a couple of titles is a traitor, then 90% of professional footballers are traitors.
Actually at Juve it’s about 40-50%…no thanks. If Nedved stayed, he could have too.
I wonder how Legrottaglie feels about this…replaced by Cannavaro at Juve once, maybe it’ll happen again? Fuck no, man, he went to Serie B with us and he’s been as good as Chiellini this season. I want those two going to South Africa together but if Lippi won’t shelve Cannavaro I certainly want the duo staying our starting XI.
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give the man a break he won you the world cup!
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By the way I might be going to the Real Madrid game tomorrow against Getafe…thinking of a good poster to hang in honor of dear Fabio. “SGRADITO: MAI ALLA JUVE?” Any suggestions?
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Won Italy a world cup, not Juventus. Fabio fits in the country-but-not-club-legends alongside Baggio.
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it is funny how media respond this news. carlo garganese of goal.com believes that it would be a good news.
http://tinyurl.com/cjod2n
meanwhile, channel 4 has different opinion.
http://tinyurl.com/czpfupPosted from
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http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr20m.html
While the decision will be applauded by many as a measure against racism in calcio, it may prove controversial. Balotelli has reported racist abuse from several sets of fans this season but the clubs in question have only received fines.
Sounds about right. I was in the Lazio curva for the Lazio-Roma game and there were racist chants against Baptista. To my knowledge, nothing has been done.
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I don’t mind to be the first being punished for something like this (the racist chants, that’s not football support), as long as we are not the only ones. If this is the beginning of the change, so be it.
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Pablo, I’m with you 100%. It’s time to put a stop to this racist bs. BTW, this would also include the “zingaro” crap that some have been chanting along.
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i traditori non devono ritornare alla juve… la juve è la + grande squadra di tutti i tempi… ki se ne va nn ritorna +….
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