SECCO SACKED!!

I think Giovinco is a great player however he is a little small and can get muscled off the ball easily by stronger opossition. If you see Leo Messi he is also very small (although I would say more solid than Gio) but he plays in a team that protects him when he is with the ball and opens up spaces for him to run. Gio needs to work on his strength before becoming a regular starter, if he does he can be our new superstar.

Buy Santacroce and use him as RB this year and replace Canna next year.

Buy D'Agostino

Buy Grosso (2-4m) and bring back Criscito next year

Buy Huntelaar (15m?)if we let Treze (10m?)leave


Sell Marchionni, Grygera, Almiron, Poulsen, Treze?
and we are still within our budget

rossi, santon, aquafresca

Also, we should concentrate on fullbacks, specifically Christian Maggio is the best choice by far in my opinion, Santacroce and Beck are good too though, but not quite as good. Santacroce can play in the center of defense too, but still needs to be disciplined a bit, and when he plays as fullback hes more reserved than Maggio, which is bad because we need very attacking fullbacks with the lack of wingers. And Maggio is flatout better then Beck.

How about forget about D'Agostino and a central midfielder altogether. I would personally love to have one of the germans i mentioned before or others as well, but it's really not needed. We could already have a great, Barcelona-style midfield if we wanted to. Just use Marchisio as a regista, which he performed well as when needed to, such as at the end of the season, grabbing one of two assists as well as a goal in the last two games of the season. Sissoko's then the ball-winner, and Camo is an extra, deeper attacking midfielder who can track back whenever needed. Think of it like this:

A 4-3-1-2:

---------------Buffon
Maggio--Cannavaro--Chiellini--Brazzo
---Camoranesi--Sissoko--Marchisio
---------------Diego
---------Del Piero--Amauri

Buffon = Valdes
Maggio = Alves
Cannavaro = Puyol
Chiellini = Pique
Brazzo = Sylvinho
Camoranesi = Iniesta
Sissoko = Toure
Marchisio = Xavi
Diego = Henry
Del Piero = Messi
Amauri = Eto'o

And just for fun:
Manninger = Pinto
Molinaro = Abidal
Legrottaglie = Marquez
Poulsen = Busquets
Tiago = Gudjohnsen
Zanetti = Keita
Giovinco = Bojan

I'd say it works.

I'd sell marco, trez and zaneti(too injury prone) but keep tiago(he could be a useful player), I'd ask ferra to consider chielleni as a left back(i think it's easier to a world class centre back than a world class left back)
Signings:LEFT BACK - Grosso/Heinze/Balzzerati/Filipe(Depor)/Cissokho(steal him before milan does)

CENTRAL DEFENDER - Fazio/Zapata/M. Richards(man city)/Onuoha(man city)

you forgot del piero

I certainly would sell moore if possible...
zebina , molinaro ,poulsen ,zanetti, marchionni, and trez.

swap marchionni+cash for melo
swap trez+ cash for huntelaar en diarra.
criscito and santos for lb
someone for rb.
juve will winn everything next year!
for controling , defensive, and central midfielders we have camoranesi , marchisio ,melo diarra and tiago(5 quality men for 3 positions)
offensive midfield diego ,giovinco( camo if neccecary)
strrikers :iaquinta amauri huntelaar)
well be able to compete in every ingle leage for the medallion spots

I think Giovinco is a great player however he is a little small and can get muscled off the ball easily by stronger opossition. If you see Leo Messi he is also very small (although I would say more solid than Gio) but he plays in a team that protects him when he is with the ball and opens up spaces for him to run. Gio needs to work on his strength before becoming a regular starter, if he does he can be our new superstar.

There's a good point about Ferrara. How much does he really know about the champagne end of things? No question he can get the business end of our defense up and running again, but I wonder what he can do for us upfront tactically? I'm gonna keep an eye on who he's named for his technical staff.

after watching him for the under 21 side over the last year i just feel giovinco deserves to start. i still believe he can play next to a targetman in a 4-3-1-2 with diego being the one. giovinco always darts off to the left anway then cuts in, in a 4-3-1-2 he could draw defenders out and then either cut in, pass to diego or chip in a nice ball for the striker.

ferrara has to get diego and seba playing together and then you will see champagne football

By the way guys we can pre-order the 2009/2010 jerseys here:

http://www.juvestore.com/prodo...

Only thing is we have no idea how they'll look yet. Oh well it's not like I'm not buying a set. Damn them.

Santacroce or Maggio, but if not them then I'd swallow the bullet and go for Maxwell. That's maybe about less than half of our budget here so if we can't get Poulsen or Tiago out of Turin (for a fee that doesn't quite spit in our face), then we should think about saving the rest for an assault on Xabi next year forget Pozzo. Or maybe spend it on a parade thanking Werder Bremen for Diego.

Deigo is going to be huge next year for us alex. Then once teams plan their strategies around him, in comes Giovinco & Co. blindsiding them from the left or right for example. The two can work marvellously together providing the creativity in our attack we so desperately need. A 4-3-1-2 system demands a sustained effort from us up-front. Without both of them, we won't be able to last all year long in three competitions.

yes but you had giovinco already. the money for diego could of been spent on d'agostino and then the money your going to spend now could of been spent on a couple of full backs. i still dont know why the only team interested in de silvestri is genoa.

I know in the future Marchisio will eb better than Melo, but currently Melo is without a doubt one of the best Midfielder going around.

And Alex youre just baggin Secco for the sake of it! Secco is improving, we needed a creative force, an AMC and we got one, a damn good one, in Diego and im hundred percent sure we are gonna get a wingback if not 2.

sam marchisio is probably the most complete young midfielder there is. your right that melo is bigger but hes not a better player. marchisio doesnt have that physical presence but he still takes charge of the midfield.

99% of all loan deals? dont quite think its that high but do you think a club of juves stature has to include options like that or is it because secco can be talked into it? the man has been shit since he was appointed he doesnt bring in the players that you need the most. diego is a prime example no doubt hes a quality player but what you really needed is a regista.

yeah Alex im serious, marchisio at the moment isint as good as Melo in most assest of the game. Physically Melo is better, Defensivly probably the same, and in their Creativity Melo is much better, and Alex these days, 99% of Loan deals have an option buy outright, we are lucky that we only invloved a co-ownership option in that deal.

so fiorentina have said the only team that is after melo is arsenal and they want eboue in return. if that deal goes through fiorentina will have one of the worst players in england in the form of eboue!

"marchisio isint as much of an allrounder as Melo is"

are you serious?

regarding the criscito deal if juve wanted to keep criscito they would have. for starters they wouldnt of given genoa an option to sign him on co-ownership in the first place.

Alex mate, Secco couldnt have done much with the Criscto deal, if Genoa wanted to take the option up, Secco couldnt have done much and Marchsio and Melo are totally different players. marchisio isint as much of an allrounder as Melo is, and at the moment Melo is a better player. And i wouldnt call Canavaro past it, he was past it in the la liga due to the fact La liga is twice as quick as Serie A is, and the slow tempo of italian football suits him. Cannavaro could be a success, and with his presence Ariaudo will gain a lot.

and by the looks of things your going to fork out the same amount of money for either of them. this is another example of how shit secco actually is. he signs diego when you have giovinco, cannavaro who isnt up to scratch, lets criscito go then wants to sign melo when you have marchisio

you already have marchisio. you seriously dont need melo you need d'agostino

i would be extrremely happy to see either of them come, D'Ago is more of a creative force, Melo is an absolutly complete midfielder, his defensive and attacking abilities are great and he can aso play as a box-box midfielder. I WOULD BE VERY SATISFIED WITH EITHER OF THEM!

I don't know whether to be happy that Melo is coming, or sad that D'Ago is not if this is true.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10...

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10...

I Reckon that is a very resonable price for a quality player, WE NEED TO GET HIM!!

Guys as much as I firmly believe that Secco is a retard, I HIGHLY doubt what the Udinese camp is saying is true that we only offered 8 million. As stupid and incapable as he is, I think he definitely knows how much Ferrara wants D'ago to be part of his midfield. Don't worry about the whole Liverpool being interested bull, it's probably Pozzo trying to keep the price high(18-20 mill).Liverpool together with Arse-anal are really after Gokhan Inler(whom I think will become a great midfielder in a few years).

I think we should either get D'Agostino now, give them what they want, or forget about it now, this way we still have time to get someone else. There's alot of German possibilities being overlooked, such as Schweinsteiger, Gentner, and Borowski. Sneijder is another player available whose being overlooked, and we could probably get him for less than he's worth considering he's way down in the pecking order at Real now with the arrivals of Kaka and Ronaldo. Misimovic is great too. We could even, instead of going for a deep-lying playmaker, go for another attacking midfielder instead, and instead of using a 4-3-1-2, use a 4-1-3-2. David Silva and/or Renato Augusto would be good ideas for this.

What do you guys think of this? I think we should either go all-out on D'Agostino or simply forget about him, but either way stop wasting so much time.

From what the Udinese director said we offered them straight cash and wouldn't even consider letting Paolucci go to them, which is completely bizarre to me. I don't think he's lying though, Secco probably tried to lowball him.

you offered them £8m they want £15m

In Inghilterra insistono: «D'Agostino è sempre più vicino al Liverpool». Secondo il Times, infatti, il regista andrà a sostituire il partente Xabi Alonso, ormai ad un passo dal Real Madrid. La dirigenza dei Reds per arrivare al cartellino del calciatore dell'Udinese - da tempo oggetto del desiderio della Juventus - sarebbe pronta a mettere sul piatto i diciotto milioni di euro richiesti da patron Pozzo.

It seems like everyday there is more from the Udine directors as to how the D'Ago collapse was Juve's fault. Why they would keep telling everyone under the sun that this is Juve's fault if they had any intention of selling him at a fair price? I don't think this is the way to try to draw Secco & co. back to the bargaining table if you want to sell him. And I don't believe that Juve's offer was single digits for a second. Maybe the cash part, but not the deal in total. I read yesterday that we'd offered 15 for him, so how is it now single digits? Get your story straight!

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10...

apparently udinese are asking for £14.5 for d'agostino, to put it into perspective boro paid £12.5 for afonso alves. secco needs to pull his head out of his arse man up and sign him. what have you been lacking the last couple of seasons, a midfielder who can pass and here is an italian, juventino whos an amazing player and they wont even pay 14m for him

I would sell Buffon, Giovinco and Chiellini to milan and then rely on what was left

Great idea Alessio, I liked it, too.

For me, the main objectives with this 4-3-1-2 formation are two strong fullbacks (we don't have any) and a midfielder type Pirlo. Having 20 mln in the bag, I would get another 15-20 mln selling Poulsen, Tiago, Grygera and Marchioni. Trezeguet definetely staying with me. I love this man, He love the club and prove it in every way every time.

I'll try to give my best to get D'Ago in the team. He may be the new Pirlo. Just think about Sissoko-D'Agostino-Diego in the midfield supported by Mauro - it sounds like dream to me. 18-20 mln may seem too high, but I'm willing to pay that money. The alternative - Ledesma, good player, too.

For the left back, I would go for Maxwell - a world class fullback who was ignore by Mourinho last season because of Santon. I don't know how much he will cost but don't think that will be more than 8-10 mln.

For the right back there is two good options - Christian Maggio and De Silvestri. I liked the suggestion of Pablo for De Silvestri. Maggio will cost probably 10-12 mln.

So, that's the formation I would play with:

Buffon

Maggio - Legrotaglie - Chielini - Maxwell

Camoranesi - Sissoko - D'Agostino

Diego

Del Piero - Trezeguet

Neither would I. We have zero space for him in the next 3-4 years, he's probably worth 6-7mil, and Udinese need someone to replace Quags! Come on!

Yeah i heard wtf, i mean are we that poor, D'ago is aquality player and not even 10 mil, this is appalling. And i really wouldnt mind giving away Poulucci.

Udinese's sporting director said we didn't even offer a double-digit value. Are we nuts? I'd pay 18-20, and we didn't even offer 10?? (no players were considered) Why not Paolucci?!

Selling Tiago and Poulsen is on the rock however Lyon could come for Trezeguet with 8-9 million. So we will have around 28 million
Fabiano Santacroce: from 9-11 million. We need a young CB who also can play RB
One from Van der Vaart and Wesley Scheneider: from 10-12 million. They may be cheaper than D'Ago and fit well with the 4-3-1-2 formation. Trust me
If Criscito be with us, I think we don't have to go for Grosso thought another 3 million could be enough for Lyon to get nod.
The formation for next season for me
Buffon
Santacroce, Legro, GC, Grosso (balance)
Schneider, Sissoko, Marchisio
Diego, Giovinco (Alex), Iaquinta (Amauri)

Well assuming we have 20 million left, without selling anyone, then i would raise another 12-15 million by selling Poulsen, Tiago, Grygera, and Zebina.

-Christian Maggio (Napoli), RB/RW/LB/LW: 12 million.
-Fabiano Santacroce (Napoli), RB/CB: 7.5 million.
-Gaetano D'Agostino (Udinese), CM: 14 million plus full ownership of Paolucci.

If Udinese are still not happy with that, then go for Ledesma or Cigarini instead.

1. Mattia Cassani for 7.5-8 million from Palermo
2. Salvatore Bocchetti for 7-7.5 million from Genoa (how come nobody mentioned him lol, I rate him very highly, matter of fact having him be at the heart of our defense with Chiello would be awesome for years to come!)
3. promote ariaudo,ekdal and fausto rossi to the first team and get them a few matches of experience