Previews: Sampdoria-Juventus and words on Tiago and Amauri

By: agiamba | May 16th, 2008
   

Sampdoria-Juventus 2008

Well, Juventini and anti-Juventini, (is there anything else?) it’s come down to the last day of the season, sadly enough. Now starts the boring summer months of transfers and pointless friendlies. (Anyone know if a Serie A team is touring America? I’m here all summer) But before this downtown, there’s one game left! While not as exciting as Catania-Roma or Parma-Inter, or even Torino-Fiorentina and Milan-Udinese, Sampdoria-Juve is always a great fixture. Neither team has any real drive to win, Sampdoria has successfully obtained a Uefa spot after chasing the Champion’s League for a bit, and Juventus has finished comfortably in 3rd. Essentially, it’s a battle for pride. It promises to be a entertaining encounter, especially with X-factor (and fellow Apulian) Antonio Cassano in the mix.

Juventus is going to have a real mix-up in the squad for this one. Grygera, Camoranesi, and Nocerino are out due to yellow-card suspensions. Molinaro, sadly, is back from his and thus will unfortunately take his spot at left-back. Zebina will fill in for Grygera at right-back, so the midfield is up for grabs. C. Zanetti will likely miss out, since he’s not fully recovered from a thigh strain he incurred during training, so it is likely that Ranieri will give the Tiago-Sissoko center-midfield partnership one last time with Marchionni taking Camoranesi’s place. Gigi Buffon will give his back a break so Belardi will be between the sticks. Salihamidzic may slot in at right-back or right-midfield…we’ll have to see what Ranieri decides for my favorite summer transfer.

For Sampdoria, Bellucci has ruined his knee so he will be out for 6 months, so either Montella or Bonazzoli will take his place. The Blucherati are also missing their #1, except Castellazzi is out due to a shoulder injury. This means one of my favorite young goalkeepers, Antonio Mirante, will be playing against Juve, who owns his contract. Cassano will be directly against Nicola Legrottaglie for this match, both are Pugliese and both once played for their/my beloved hometown team AS Bari. Sampdoria hasn’t won this fixture since February 2005, but on the last day, at home, with a coach like Mazzari, they could easily reverse this.

PREDICTED LINEUPS:
Juventus- 4-4-2 (WWWLD)
Belardi; Zebina, Legrottaglie, Chiellini, Molinaro; Marchionni, Tiago, Vieira 2.0, Pavel; ADP, T-Rez
Sampdoria- 3-5-2 (LWDLW)
Mirante; Gastaldello, Sala, Accardi; Maggio, Sammarco, Palombo, Franceschini, Pieri; Cassano, Bonazzoli

Conclusion:
This is one of the least important matches in Serie A this weekend, however neither team are going to roll over. For Tiago, Marchionni (aka the poor man’s Camoranesi), Zebina, and Molinaro, this is likely their last chance to give Ranieri a reason to keep them this summer. Del Piero, Trez, and Borriello will be shooting it out for the capocannoniere spot, and Cassano and Sissoko will be trying not to be sent off.

Prediction: Sampdoria 2-1 Juventus
34′ Cassano, 78′ Maggio
50′ TIAGO

Tiago in semi-bianconero

Now onto Tiago. I was a big supporter when he arrived, and I still think he is an very talented individual. He’s come a long way since his dreadful performances earlier in the season, the Palermo-Juventus game comes to mind. If he played at Juve like he did at Lyon he would have cemented a place in the Starting XI, but something is not clicking. I’m not sure if it’s apathy, or difficulty to adjusting to Serie A play or Turin life, but he’s only showing glimpses of that midfield skill that broke him into the Portuguese midfield for Germany 2006. Barring a stunningly dominant performance this game, I can’t see him staying next year. Like Palladino, he hasn’t been given enough of a chance to play, but given his earlier performances, can you blame Ranieri? It’s probably better we go our separate ways this summer; Tiago deserves regular playing time, and we should get some cash from his sale.
It’s a shame the Bianconeri didn’t fit on you, Tiago. I hope you move on to a good place, maybe Benfica to kickstart your career, and I wish you nothing but the best in the future.

no amauri for juve

Amauri- Even though everyone at the Palermo Offside speaks of him as the second coming of Christ, Amauri is still a very talented forward. There has been at least a month long transfer saga with him and Juventus, with arguments about player-swaps, salaries, etc. Currently, they are discussing a swap for Nocerino and one of a few others players. To Ranieri’s credit, he absolutely refused to let Giovinco go. Good, this kid is incredible and will settle in at Juve next year. Nocerino is a promising midfielder, but with Sissoko (22 years old?) we are set in the defensive-midfielder department for a few years, so I’d be willing to let him go. Hopefully Zampa is crazy enough to request Molinaro, who plays with heart but is just not good enough for Juve. Our youth talent, De Ceglie, Giovinco, Marchisio, and Lanzafame all have incredible talent and I’d love to see most of them wearing bianconero in a few years.

Why do I not want Amauri? Well first, despite what he says, he doesn’t seem to want to play for Juve. First he says he wants to play with Del Piero, then decides Kaka’ would be more fun. Channel4 is a little more harsh than me, calling him an egotistical disloyal bitch. That’s what I’m getting at though, he says he wants Italy, but really prefers Brazil. He says he’d love to wear bianconero, but would prefer to wear rossonero for 6 months. Not only all of this, but if he arrived, he’d either sit on the bench or replace Trezeguet. Trezegol is a Juventus legend, and I absolutely love the Trezegol-ADP partnership, the longest-lasting, most productive duo in Serie A. There’s no reason to expect T-Rez won’t be playing for us next season, so if Amauri doesn’t displace him, he will sit on the bench, a waste for him and us. At the end of the season the transfer rumblings would get louder (alla Iaquinta) and he’d probably leave, because he’s a primadonna. Talented player, but I still wonder about his head. When things don’t go his way, he is moody, and I’m not a big fan of that as for some players it can weigh on their productivity. Here’s to hoping we don’t buy him and keep Iaquinta/T-Rez/Palladino, aka maintaining our non-Brazilianness and our youth talent.

Amauri? No thanks.


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  • no camo should stick to his original position. did well in the centre but offers so much more on the right

    i wont have zambrotta back. it's time to move past it and look at other options.
  • agiamba
    Camoranesi played great as a center-mid when asked to but I think he's a lot more effective on the wing, I can't think of a winger in Italy who was better this season than him.



    From what I've seen, I'd take Nasri over Quaresma, I think we can buy one of those but not both. Nasri could play center mid and at the risk of sounding like "one of those guys" he does have a lot of hints of Zidane in his playing style. Quaresma is great, but only in a small pond, with Camoranesi, Marchionni, Salihamidzic, and Nedved as wingers we're set in that department.
  • adam
    heres a crazy idea alessio, y not make camoranesi our CMF. and we get rosina to play on our right or keep palladino for our right. I know it sounds crazy but i just might be amazing.
    Midfielders i dream and pray juve would sign are RICARDO QUARESMA and SAMIR NASRI, either one of them would cost us alot of money but that will be money very well spent instead of spending it plus youngsters on AMAURI.
    just imagine;
    BUFFON
    ZAMBROTTA-CHIELLINI-MELLBERG-GROSSO/DE CEGLIE
    CAMORANESI-SISSOKO-NASRI/GIOVINCO-QUARESMA/GIOVINCO
    ALESSANDRO DEL PIERO-TREZEGUET
  • agiamba
    I'd prefer an ok striker, and a "champion" midfielder and two defenders. Grosso is a good idea, Maggio is another. We should keep De Ceglie if we only get one left-back, cause Molinaro needs to go. Zambrotta would be good if he was inexpensive, which Barca may let him go for cheap. Wouldn't it be funny if we ended up profiting from him being at Barca for 2 years?
  • adam
    time for summer transfers i think i read somewhere the Gigli is gonna sign a champion strkier, midfielder, and defender. plus where gonna bring back some of our loan players. everyone please pray that the champion defender is either zambrotta or grosso.
  • agiamba
    Comments during ADP's 2nd goal yesterday by the English commentator (about Alex being capocannoniere)- "What a remarkable achievement it would be, for the man who's been written off so many times. Written off when Juventus was relegated, he won't be able to handle it in Serie B, they said, the game will be too physical. Lost his pace, lost his edge, he'll be lucky to get double figures in terms of goals, instead he's aiming for the top scorer in all of Italy."
  • On a totally unrelated note... DO YOU HEART ADP? :D
  • great game

    alex for euro

    no trez in france euro team .. WTF??
  • birindelli sticking it up ranieri's butt.
    in all seriousness, predictions .. hm
    i have faith in inter's "we are born losers" DNA so they'll prolly screw up the scudetto even though that remains unlikely
    what is likely though is fiorentina getting that CL spot
    and alex dp officially crowned the capocannoniere
  • agiamba
    Predictions on what will happen today?

    I think Inter will the scudetto, Parma and Empoli will be relegated with Catania just making it. Fiorentina will get that coveted 4th spot.
  • agiamba
    i was very disappointed to see birindelli remain on the bench. his loyalty was outstanding, sticking with the club as a reserve for many years when he could have walked onto 15 other Serie A clubs first team, no doubt. i wish we juventini could express our thanks...there was no reason to throw on a youth team player instead.
  • ranieri was being an absolute BITCH today, not only for taking off dp but god im so fucking pissed that

    he didnt let birindelli play

    hell at least give him the captain's armband for his last game in juve. or even a few minutes.

    how could you
  • Standing ovation for Juve flag ALESSANDRO DEL PIERO!!!
    I hope he keeps the position of top scorer! I love it! Great return of Juve to the Serie A in grand style! I will be mad if Donadoni doesn't call DEL PIERO for the EURO 2008!

    Thanks Juve for the great return!
    http://italiansoccerseriea.com...
  • adam
    is it just me or did anyone notice this. birindelli has been at juve for 11 years and last home game he didnt even get a chance to come on as a late substitute even today. instead the late sub in the last two games was castiglia coming from the youth team.
  • Anthony
    Alessio big day tuesday the final 23 will be announced will there be any surprises?
  • agiamba
    This weekend is great, Juve-Sampdoria, and my personal favorite derby, Bari-Lecce. Forza Bari!!!
  • agiamba
    I couldn't agree more on Molinaro. Zebina was caught out of play as well, Chiellini made a terrible tackle, and Legrottaglie was schooled by Cassano for the first goal. Not a good outing for our defense.
  • ricci
    Can't believe he took off DP. Anyway it's safe to say Alex has booked his plane ticket for Swiss-Austria. He will most likely end up top scorer unless Boriello unleashes 3. Cassano had another great game but missed a penalty. Pretty good game to watch, glad I woke up for it.

    As far as the 4-3-3 goes, if you have the right players it can work. But yeah you are definitely correct in saying that it has it's flaws. I like the 4-2-3-1 myself, but Juve are better off with the 4-4-2 or the 4-4-1-1, wherever you see ADP fit to play. The 4-3-1-2 is a dying formation, and in 5 years I don't think you'll see many teams play it, which is why Ranieri is hesitant to play Del Piero there and buy another target striker. You can simply mark that creative player out of the game and the other team has trouble creating. The first 20 minutes Juve looked scary good, if they can improve at a few positions they can make some good runs in both competitions next year. Molinaro sucks though. His positional sense is worse than any player in Serie A at the moment.
  • agiamba
    A bit disappointed Trez and ADP didn't finish together, even with ADP giving Trez one of those PKs, but what an entertaining game and an entertaining season.

    Grazie ragazzi, grazie!

    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... 1st goal- ADP 7'
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... 2nd goal- Trez 15'
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... 1st Samp goal- Cassano 22'
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... equalizer maggio 39'
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... 3rd goal- ADP 64'
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... Great dribbling by ADP for the foul for above PK
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... Missed PK by Cassano
    http://www.d1g.com/video/show/... montella equalizer 80'
  • agiamba
    Alex and Trez, great games thus far from them.

    Ricci, I'm not a big fan of 4-3-3, I think it's too weak in the midfield and you get waffling teams like Barca, who are either devastating in attack or humiliated by a crappy team. Optimally, we'd find some young promising striker like Pazzini for the role. He's not going to demand as much 1st team play, but he's promising for the future and will do well when called upon. I just see problems with Amauri coming and then either splitting Alex/Trez who work together amazing or being unhappy (rightfully so) with a predominant bench role.

    I also agree wholeheartedly we need other spots reinforced first. When C. Zanetti's out (assuming Tiago leaves) we don't really have another central midfielder. Camoranesi has played sick as a center-mid when called upon but obviously that's no good. Marchisio will do well in this role, if we keep him, but C. Zanetti is a bit old and Marchisio is a bit young to be playing constantly, so we need a center-mid first, then left-back, then a centerback.
  • Sofia
    roberto - i have been saying we need some defence since the stupid amarui rumours started! he is very talented but it would be a waste for us to buy him. I dont want us to go all Milan and Roma style and have loads of Brasillians runnin around. Lets keep it as Italian as possible and I think we have been doing quite a good job of that (that is of course after we sell Tiago and Andrade).

    Its too bad we gave up a 2-0 lead. Its too bad I can't watch it though
  • ricci
    2-2 Juve gone right off the pace, great game though. Zebina shoulda been given that penalty too early in the game
  • Goals from both Del Piero and Trez!!!!

    2-0 Juventus!!!
  • Michael
    1-0 Juve Alex scores
  • and of course, trez and alex for capocannoniere ! that'll be a great way to end the season. hope borriello wont hit the net .. (selfish much ?)
  • we shouldnt get amauri simply because it'll be a waste of money and god forbid giovinco, and that money is better spent elsewhere in the team, our offense is the least of our problems. we should keep palla i think that would be sufficient. it just depends if our management is actually using their heads. after calciopoli we need to do damage control and be really smart - why spend and look elsewhere when you have giovinco and palla right at home, with 5 great champions to guide them through? bloody hell.
  • You're welcome alessio (you thief :P )

    Amauri's just playing auctioneer. In the end, his final choice will be determined on a variety of factors: which teams he prefers (Juve), which team will pay him more money (Milan) and which team will pay Palermo more money (Milan). I think everyone here can put two and two together...

    I just hope that if Amauri does go to Milan, we get someone in "return" (like Gilardino). If we want to do well in the Champions League next year, we just need more tactical depth up front. ADP + Trezeguet + Iaquinta just isn't enough (Palladino seems to be heading out).

    Oh and regarding Sampdoria-Juventus, this game is actually VERY important for a very simple reason: Trezegol and ADP are chasing after that Capocannoniere title, so they need everyone on the team help them reach that goal. That is, we gotta play really well on Sunday!
  • R.J.
    roberto, not sure why everyone is so preoccupied with more offense, as that is not how you win championships.
  • ricci
    Alright I'll try and be civil about this and discuss Juve and Amauri. AFTER taking a look at the situation from your prospective, spending money + talent on a striker may not be the best thing to do. You'll have to buy one soon, but you'd be better off getting someone cheaper and maybe younger to learn from ADP and Trezegol. I say you look no further than Palladino. He has done good things when played in his proper position. Plus I think he will mesh well with the young talents Juve have.

    You're better off spending money on areas that need it. Zanetti has been great but is getting up there in age and there's no way he plays 38 games + CL schedule. I think Cigarini to Juve is gonna happen so there's your guy right there. Will cost about 15m though. Sissoko is pretty much holding down that DM position for the next 8-10 years or so if he continues his good form. Chiellini + Legro + Melberg seems ok on paper but really the only solid one is Chiellini. Legro shits the bed a lot and Melberg is 30+ and has no Italian experience. I think Stendardo would be a good outright purchase for you, he has looked pretty damn good in some games I saw. Criscito has shown some good things though, maybe bringing him back is an option.

    While Amauri + Trez with ADP being used as a trequartista would be devastating, you'd be losing a lot, and you'd have to change formations. Either Amauri, Trez or ADP is gonna end up unhappy so blowing your transfer load on a striker is probably not the best thing to do.

    To Adam who says buy Huntelaar...why? How many times have Dutch scorers gone on to do nothing in the bigger leagues. They don't even play defense in Holland. Plus he'd want to play all the time just like Amauri and I'm pretty sure their pricetag is the same.

    Plus Juve is dirt and I want Amauri to go to a team that actually has fans in their stadium.
  • Is it just adam, R.J., and I who've still maintained that we need not spend cash or trade for anyone either than a couple of world class backs or mids?

    I'm going so far as to say Juventus shouldn't trade or sell anyone, just purchase (for cash) two solid backs. One attacking, one stay-at-home.

    And basta, there's your scudetto next year.
  • adam
    lorenzo in all seriousness i never wanted amauri, he is an amazing striker anyone who thinks otherwise knows very little about serie a. but the things he says like ill go to juve only if milan dont finish in te top 4. things like show very little respect to his future team. i would prefer huntelaar over amauri. and also our offence this year isnt having too much trouble, our money could be better spent in other departments our problems lie in the depth of our midfield and defence. we need a good quality CMF and atleast 2 more side backs. molinaro, nocerino, zebina, marchionni, and tiago are all likely to leave next season. and juve are gonna bring in de ceglie, giovinco, and depending onn the amauri deal marchisio. but these arent enough for UCL and scudetto we need 1 or 2 world class signings to even attempt a shot at winning anything.
  • Adam - YOU'RE the one who is calling people stupid, dumb, etc. and coming across as a bigger moron when you can't even write legibly.

    But I digress...

    I really was hoping to foment some sort of conversation regarding who you guys would be thinking OUTSIDE of Amauri (seeing as you guys don't want him) as the better pickup for your attack.

    Go read MY post here on this page.
  • adam
    its palermo fans like u ricci and giro that give palermo and sicily a bad name. have all the fun u can with stupid comments like that but when someone close to u, as u put it "pulls a pessoto" its not gonna be funny when someone tells you "pull a whoever just committed suicide"
    and Giro m not surprised u laughed seeing as how you already pointed out you were "dumb" go see lorenzo he thinks hes pretty smart maybe he can help
  • Dario
    "But you know what? In the end it’s not our loss if you guys don’t sign him."

    Good, keep him.
  • LorenzoRosanero
    Actually, the link to the blog that you put in the story, Alessio, is a horrible piece written by someone who obviously hasn't followed Amauri or Palermo for that matter. I mean, how is this a contradiction?

    [b]“I am 91 per cent Juve and it will be an honour to wear the Juve shirt,” the Sao Paulo native declared a fortnight ago. However, there wasn’t even time to print his name on the back of a replica shirt before he had changed his tune. “Nothing is decided – I’m focusing on Palermo,” he insisted.[/b]

    So, that basically means, he hasn't signed yet, and he'd like to just finish out the season without being asked the same d@mn question EVERY day.

    EVERY day he gives the same answer - respecting all clubs involved. Unfortunately, you guys think that he wouldn't give his all for either Juve or Italy. Sadly, you guys are mistaken.

    Besides, the real slimeball in this equation is his lowlife of an agent, Grimaldi. Half the stuff that gets attributed to Amauri didn't even come from his mouth. It's the product of an agent who wants to get as much $$ as he can.

    But you know what? In the end it's not our loss if you guys don't sign him. Apparently, you think the current strike force is enough to win the Scudetto next year. I have my doubts. Don't get me wrong, ADP & Trez had great seasons respectively...but one of those guys goes down and it's Arrivederci to your Scudetto hopes. And it seems to me that you guys keep forgetting about a little competition known as the CL...unless you think Iaquinta is the solution...lol
  • agiamba
    Yes, I am singing his praises. Trezegol is a Juventino legend and I bought his jersey this season. What of it? The Juve management was, and is, a group of idiots. Anytime you piss off Trezegol, Camoranesi, Del Piero, and Pavel into thoughts of leaving Juve after a year in Serie B, bullshit. They are not good in the contract renewal.

    Management =/= Juventus.

    Another good reason not to waste money on Amauri- Palermo fans don't want to sell him to us, and we don't want him. Simple.
  • Giro
    Adam i laughed my ass off when he said that....very classy
  • adam
    "do us a favor Adam and pull a Pessotto. Grazie."
    thats real classy ricci
  • ricci
    Wait, are you speaking so highly of the same Trezegol who last season after scoring a goal gave the ol vaffanculo to the owners box. Class act that guy.
  • adam
    u brought up a very good point alessio. if we get amauri and give up our youth and then at the end of the season he says he wants to leave.
    1. we would lose a great young prospect
    2. we would lose the money spent on him because if hes on the bench the whole season his price tag is gonna fall
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