‘Last Chance CL Saloon’: Juventus v. Bayern

By: roberto | December 7th, 2009
   

Saturday night, just minutes after their hard-fought victory (no pun intended) against the nerazzurri, Ferrara went into his team’s dressing room with something other than just praise for his men. Ciro, who was definitely just as over the moon as anyone of his players were, had to remind himself of his duty as head coach before he spoke to his lads of the hard work that’s still left to be completed. Case in point, FC Bayern München and the Champions League.

On Tuesday, Decemeber the 8th, Ferrara’ssquad face their second big challenge in almost as many days. Withone point separating Juventus from Bayern in their Group A standings, a loss for the Old Lady would ensure heartbreak for us fans as well as Bayern’s place alongside Bordeaux in the final sweet-sixteen of the European club tournament. As it stands, a draw would be enough to see us through. But as most of you know, playing for a tie against a team that needs a win is a recipe for disaster.

Photo 1 - Juventus forwards Alessandro Del Piero (R), David Trezeguet (R) ... AFP/Getty Images

Back in September when these two teams met in Germany, the match wouldn’t have ended in a scoreless draw like it did, had Franck Ribery been able to score a goal of the year candidate. Unfortunately for Munich fans, Robben’s going to have to do all of the “Ich könnte mir in den Arsch beißen”-ing as Franck is still suffering from a tendon problem and will be unavailable for the Bavarians in this one. However if history can tells us one thing it’s that Juventus is never one to be out done in the injury department.

Giorgio Chiellini. The defender from Livorno underwent clinical tests and an ultrasound scan, which were necessary after the light destructive trauma to the right back thigh suffered duringthe dying minutes of the match against the nerazzurri. The tests showed a first degree distraction to the right femoral biceps which will see the defender stop for 20 days to recover.

Gigi Buffon. The goalkeeper visited the Fornaca clinic this morning for magnetic resonance testing following the return of pain to the left knee. The result was the fracture of the lateral meniscus. The player trained and was called-up but his fielding against Bayern will be decided upon after the fine-tuning session on schedule for tomorrow morning. The operation is necessary and will be scheduled in the coming hours.

[EDIT] Sissoko. Sissoko will not be amongst the protagonists of Juventus-Bayern Munich. The midfielder is suffering of a muscular distraction of the first/second degree to the left foot.

Talk about collateral damage.

If there was ever a time when this team needed a concerted effort, it’s now. Like it or not, Legrottaglie’s our boy for the next couple of match days while I’m sure some of you are a little more disappointed to know that Cannavaro will be as well. One would expect the aforementioned pair in the middle of our defense on Tuesday considering Fabio and Nicola’s relative amount of Champions League experience, however Ferrara apparently has eight old/new faces that have at one time or another played some ‘D’ available .

The call-ups: 1 Buffon, 2 Caceres, 4 Felipe Melo, 5 Cannavaro, 6 Grosso, 7 Salihamidzic, 8 Marchisio, 10 Del Piero, 11 Amauri, 12 Chimenti, 13 Manninger, 15 Zebina, 16 Camoranesi, 17 Trezeguet, 18 Poulsen, 19 Molinaro, 20 Giovinco, 21 Grygera, 22 Sissoko, 23 Ariaudo, 28 Diego, 29 De Ceglie, 30 Tiago, 33 Legrottaglie

Photo 1 - Juventus coach Ciro Ferrara (L) talks to goalkeeper Gianluigi Bu... AFP/Getty Images

As for our keeper situation, I think we can start talking about that next Saturday against Bari. Something tells me Buffon is going to start in goal. It’s pretty obvious he understands more than anyone how much his presence means to his teammates and supporters, so hopefully he doesn’t seriously re-injure that knee, in this, his last game ahead of surgery Wednesday. *Fingers crossed*

Apart from those three positions discussed, every spot on either the 4-3-1-2 or the 4-2-3-1 is pretty much up to discussion with the exception of Diego’s starting role of course. Ciro really does have many possibilities he can choose from here so it will be up to him to decide on what type of game he wants to play against a Bayern side that has won three straight on the bounce and will prove to be very difficult to handle.

Mark my words guys, Bayern is going to be fucking hard to deal with in this one. From what I’ve read and the pictures I’ve seen, their coach Louis Van Gaal has them focused with a clear idea of what they need to do in Turin. If we play for the tie, we’ll lose.

Franz Beckenbauer’s take on the match:

“I had a coach at Bayern when I was a young lad called Branko Zebec. He said three words to us: patience, patience, patience. Keep it at 0-0 until a chance comes along then be ruthless in that moment. Bayern should also behave like this: they should think about defending first and then the goal will surely come.”

Del Piero’s take on the match:

“We have to go on the pitch with the thoughts, motivations and the stimulus that distinguished our last game against Inter. They are important qualities and we are conscious of the importance of this game. We want to go through.”

Ciro’s take on the match:

“If we lose against Bayern then the win against Inter would be worthless, furthermore we would be out of the Champions League. Beating Inter has a particular taste to it, but I want to see more determination. We cannot repeat previous errors.”

59090913

“Welcome to Torino, I’ll be your wallet inspector…”

Predictions: 1-1 Juventus qualifies but Bayern score first to make things spicy.
Match Links: myp2p.eu (match thread) atdhe.net (direct match link)
*Ivo’s recording the game in case some of you can’t see it. Drop a comment for more info.

IERI… OGGI… DOMANI… SEMPRE JUVE!!!


Some Related Juventus Posts:


Tags

   
  • Godson Hernandez
    Conte, anyone? Diego, I must admit, has become a sort of problem in our midfield. So has the presence of Del piero. Moggi wasn't far wrong when he said our midfield problems are down to these players. Maybe he should be benched for three matches. Then he'd realize that his lack of performance is costing us too much. Apart from that.......goodness, I don't know what to say. 4-1? Goodness! If we can win the Europa league, I won't mind but nothing can erase this embarassment.
  • Phil
    You guys forgot to make a phone call to the refree before the game...
  • Bari Mike
    Ale,

    Bring in my favorite player of all time....

    Claudio Gentile.
  • Jovan
    Inter trolls would be wise to shut the fuck up until they find out if their team can manage to not lose against Rubin tomorrow.
  • sammy
    good nite
  • Nnahoj
    I really have no words to describe my disappointment at a season that has quickly come off track after seeming so promising.

    I will just say, let's try to get it together for Bari on the weekend. A win is a must.

    Forza Juve!
  • sammy
    grandemou, come on man, juve didnt deserved to lose today, please dont bother them, they're very depressed rite now if you wanna say something, say something positive, even it's to be very delusional,
  • rhaaj
    I just wrote on my FB page: It wont be very pleasing to read if I wrote the words that come to mind now. I am so effin angry I could tear my skin out.

    I havent felt so angry like this. I dont care about anything. Not the scudetto & definitely not the UEFA. No cup will mask this fucking disgrace. All I am thinking about is who will pull us out of this shit hole? And how?
  • Gaetano
    We deserve to hear it from all of the trolls. We sucked!
  • Gaetano
    We all do alessio but ciro really did fuck up today. Our boys didn't t help that situation either but this proves one thing. You were right about our central defenders. We need a replacement for cannavaro. Also I think things could have been different with chiellini out there. Also Buffon should have let manniger play this match. easy to analyZe now after the point and if we won with Buffon, we would have been saying the obvious. We have to admit like bourdeaux we were totally outclassed today. Weird because after trez scored I was so amped and had this amazing feeling that we were ion our way to thump them. He made it look effortless. And then this, I mean we literally had our asses handed to us. A good approach would be to analyze what went wring after the first goal.
  • Jorid
    grandMou: Almost 50 year old Cl drought. Win something or STFU.
  • ahh, dont you just hate these days when everyone comes to pick at your carcase?
  • grandeMou
    forget hiddink ,mancini etc etc. just go back to your winning combination namely moggi and lippi. oh wait you were caught and cant do that shit again. try something else maybe just lippi. he is pretty much managing juve team now anyway lol. amauri over pazzini , cassano. please tell me it is a joke.
  • grandeMou
    jorid stop being an idiot. luck plays a big factor in soccer and you win some matches playing good football and being the better team and other matches being just lucky.

    juve won last saturday being just lucky. similarly we were lucky to win against udinese since it should have been a draw the way the 2 teams played and we lucked out with last second sneijder goal . i am not one of the idiots who think my team cant be bad or we deserve to win all the time. we played terribly at nou camp as bad as how juve played today. have no problem saying that. but i have watched every single serie A game of inter this year and we have not been dominated by anybody including juve. in every serie A game we were the better team and created more chances. have watched lot of juve games and you guys were spanked by so many teams (palermo , napoli , bayern) it is not even funny

    so to repeat once more you guys were lucky last sat and you guys SUCK. accept that and move on
  • Fuck Mancini, fuck Hiddink, fuck Capello. I want a juventino.
  • Would you want Mancini? is Hiddink available?

    I'd love to see Capello back on the continent, but you'd have to wait till next season if he wanted to come at all
  • so is it time to start talking about coaching alternatives??
  • you guys should put more effort into trying to beat Bordeaux last matchday
  • Jorid
    grandeMou: I'll tell you what's wrong with your post. You appear to be one of those idiotic losers. The ones who even when they win say "well if this and that would have happened we would have won!". So what you pretty much said was: "If we could have scored just as many goals as you guys you would have not won." Well no shit Sherlock. Also if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. However, she does not. Get over it already. You lost, plain and simple. Also, we lost at home and we crashed in an abysmal 1-4 loss. I have no problem admitting that. You have not won in 40+ years in Europe. Once again, when you do, come and talk to me. I'll congratulate you first hand.
  • mohd
    dhaw the biggest troll have not show up yet he is waiting tomorrow match and if the win you well see him all over the place
  • sammy, you must not have watched the game. Possession and statistics be damned...we deserved to be down 3-1 at the half.
  • grandeMou
    jorid: maybe you guys should win some matches and stop sucking. losing to cagliari , beating inter on an offside fluke goal n getting spanked at HOME by bayern .

    You guys suck and no wonder cheat like crazy since there is no way juve would win anything otherwise

    BTW inter this season have not lost at home and played only one bad match where we deserved to lose which was at nou camp. the two matches we lost in serie A should have been draws and if anything we better team in those two matches. so yah who gives a shit juve cheated and won all this fake titles in the past lets talk about how your team in playing right now.

    btw take it from me diego is a one trick pony and will be a big failure in serie A. just what your team deserves
  • Right on all counts, Gaetano. Maybe it's the anger in me speaking, but I think this ranks in the top 3 worst Juve performances, in the last 14-15 years or so, that I've seen.

    All we had to do was win against Bayern or Bordeaux, or not lose to Bayern. That's it. We came into this game with a 16-game unbeaten home record, and 6 conceded. And it all came apart. Hats off to Bayern, they came in the game pumped and ready to tear us apart. We, on the other hand, seemed to be banking on the same resolve that got us through the Derby d'Italia.

    Can we skip the Europa League? I don't care about it, I'd rather use go for what little chance we have of winning the Scudetto.
  • sammy
    once more, UNdeservedly lost by Juve, i mean 4-1?! really what an unjust scoreline, check out the possession, or the corner, juve really NOT deserved to lose. well thats just the way it is i guess, sometime you lost when you dont deserved to.
  • Gaetano
    You know something our guys really let us down. Ciro let us down. Brazil let us down today.
  • Wow I turned it off after Bayern's 3rd goal. Just saw they scored a 4th. I need to go scream.
  • Dhaw
    Forza Roma,

    Dude we are fucking playing in Europa and have difficulting getting back to CL and you come here and say JOKEtus ?

    What the fuck man ? Dumb fuck.
  • Dhaw
    Who the fuck is this Forza Roma troll ?
  • grandeMou
    what exactly was stupid about my post ?

    1) u guys were lucky to beat inter is a fact- u didnt create many chance and inter had more possession . the correct result should have been 2-2 if cambi didnt miss the open goal with his header

    2) u guys SUCK is a fact - losing at home to crash out of champions league and top of that you lose 4-1. think about it again you lose 4-1 at home to bayern who are not really that great either. So you guys SUCK at playing football. this is a fact too

    can you let me know where i was wrong
  • Jorid
    grandMou: LOL. Your name says it all. When you finally win a CL after 3 centuries of disgusting failures come and talk to me again.

    kurdt: Ciro is inexperienced and FUCKED UP big time today. He deserves a great part of the blame, but Melo has been under performing like no other, Diego is still a world-class player who appears to not have found his rhythm yet and our defense just sucked major today. Also I truly think Gigi's performance today was below average although can't blame him too much knowing the stupid defense errors today and his knee and how he's getting surgery tomorrow on it. All in all an abysmal performance
  • Forza Roma
    JOKEntus!!!!!
    HAHAHAHAHA
  • Andy
    oh one more time you guys SUCK !!!

    Inter has the world's stupidest fans. There's no denying it.
  • mohd
    4 goals in buffon in one match this is the first time this is a disaster
  • Dhaw
    Buffon was not in the game at all. You could notice that from the first minute.
  • kurdt
    Buying another good players? I don't think it's the player to blame for this loss. I mean Prandelli made Melo look like a worldclass midfield and Diego was stunning at Bremen, it's definitely Ciro if you guys looking for a scapegoat.
  • grandeMou
    oh one more time you guys SUCK !!!
  • So much for diego being juves saviour. Whats changed since he has arrived? I guess injuries have hampered you, but you guys really should have got through that group considering where you were after 4 games
  • mohd
    4-1 omg i can't believe it
  • grandeMou
    lol guess you guys used all your luck on saturday. both inter and juve played bad sloppy football but inter were slightly better , created more chances and had more possession. juve scored one goal on offside and created really one chance which marchisio took beautifully. so you guys were damn lucky to win over a under strength inter side (no maicon ,no sneijder) when a draw would have been a fair result.

    since we were very unlucky to lose on sat hopefully we will have some luck tomorrow. in the mean time enjoy your shitty team and idiot coach lol
  • Dhaw
    Now is the right time to re-post : DISGACE DISGRACE DISGRACE.

    Ciro needs to get some stick for this debacle.
blog comments powered by Disqus

Follow Us

           




Italy National Team News

Search The Offside


 




Related Links


Categories


Send Your Tips!

Found a great story, photo or video that's perfect for The Offside?
Email juventus[at]theoffside[dot]com

Write for The Offside

Archives