

Juventus-Napoli, the other Derby d’Italia
By: alessio | October 17th, 2008Cari tifosi juventini,
We all know that Juventus is not the team of Torino. We are the team of all of Italy. Juventus has Club Docs from Rome, to Sicily, to Milan, throughout the entire peninsula and across the world. The biggest fanbase is across il Mezzogiorno (southern Italy) and Sicilia because of Juve’s dominance in Italy in the 20th century, as well as the lure of industrial giant FIAT. It’s widely agreed that the original Torinesi are all Toro fans, the millions of southern Italians who moved to Turin for work and their descendants are all Juventini. For me, and many millions of southern Italians there are two big teams you can support, Napoli, or Juventus. (Sorry Palermitani, a mainlander couldn’t ever support your team) Because of this, this is one of the biggest rivalries for Juventus. It’s not just the best northern team against the “best” southern team, it’s also a bitterly divided match in southern Italy. I could never stomach another Napoli scudetto, the only team that I hate more is Inter. For once I agree with the Interistas….NAPOLI, FOGNA D’ITALIA!
This match will be more contested than ever before. Napoli is flying high and dreaming of a Champion’s League spot, whereas Juventus have been limping along for the last month. And us Juventini certainly remember the scandal last year at the San Paolo, where Napoli cheated their way to a 3-1 win with two of those ridiculous bullshit penalties I’ve ever seen. I hope the players realize after the recent stuttering and last year’s scandalous loss, us tifosi want nothing less than a full victory. We need to show the world why we have 29 Scudetti, and Napoli has two. It’s do or die time, let’s take it to the bastards!
While I hate Napoli (the city) and the team, Napoli FC , AC Napoli , SSC Napoli , Napoli Soccer , whatever the hell their name is now, Campania has given Juve some of its’ greatest players. There’s a lot of Juventini in Naples, and we can thank Napoli for Ciro Ferrara, Dino Zoff, Fabio Cannavaro, Raffaele Palladino, and a host of former Napoli players that turned to the good side. But that doesn’t change the fact that Napoli is still merda!
Juventus: As usual, we have a whole host of injuries. Buffon, Camoranesi, Zanetti, Zebina, Legrottaglie, Iaquinta, Trezeguet, Mellberg, and possibly Giovinco. Goddamnit, that’s most of our first team and subs. Oh, and Sissoko is suspended. It’s time for the reserves and our youth to step it the hell up. I feel comfortable with Manninger in net, the weak link in defense will certainly be Knezevic, let’s hope he’s up to the challenge. Marchionni looks set to replace Camoranesi, and as Roberto noted in the last post, as long as Marchionni plays up to his potential we’re in good hands. With Del Piero dropped from Italy and rumored to be angry with Ranieri, this is a perfect scenario for him to roar back into form. Ranieri said he’s not going to tinker with the formation (good) until we have 1/2 our team back to be able to do so, so it’s good ‘ole 4-4-2.
Predicted XI: Manninger; Grygera, Chiellini, Knezevic, Molinaro; Marchionni, Poulsen, Marchisio, Nedved; Del Piero, Amauri
Napoli: Juve’s been dumping our trash on Napoli recently (sorry, the garbage jokes are just too easy to make) offloading flops Zalayeta and Blasi to the Azzurri. While not looking pissed off, Reja is busy trying to patent his beloved 3-5-2, no doubt that’s what he’ll be playing tomorrow. Jump over the Napoli Offside for their formation, this is Channel4’s:
Predicted XI: Iezzo; Santacroce, Cannavaro, Contini; Maggio, Blasi, Gargano, Hamsik, Vitale; Denis, Lavezzi
Napoli makes CR7 proud.
Key battles-
Lavezzi v. Juve’s defense- Well, our flanks should be alright but Lavezzi might eat Molinaro alive. I’m more worried about our center-duo. Chiellini hasn’t looked himself since his knee injury and Knezevic didn’t have a great first outing. Advantage: Napoli
Poulsen v. Hamsik- Time for Christian Poulsen to show what made him one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders. I agree with Channel4 that it is way too early to proclaim Poulsen a flop, when he’s done more thus far than Tiago did all of last season. But he’s up against Hamsik in this one, who was one of the best midfielders of last year’s Serie A campaign. Advantage: Napoli
Manninger v. Iezzo- Alex is our backup, but I’d much rather have him in goal than Iezzo, who’s never impressed me. Iezzo has been with Napoli and Catania of note, leading them up from Serie C. Manninger was David Seaman’s backup at Arsenal for years and probably the reason Siena avoided relegation last year. Advantage: Juve
Other notes-
===>To get you more pumped, here’s Roberto’s preview from the home victory against Napoli last March.
===>Giovinco is Juventino till 2013. Goal.com loses anything to talk about for the next 9 months or so.
===>Ledesma’s agent says Juve and Inter have been in talks with Lazio, but denies any winter sale will be made.
===>Deschamps says he still closely follows Juve and that watching his former team struggle hurts him. If Ranieri is sacked (which I don’t think we should) I’d hope management swallowed its’ pride and begged him to come back. He should have stayed to begin with.
Forza Juve, VINCI PER NOI!
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It’s a shame that the juve forum has an idiot like that prick ‘alessio’ writing for them…
reading his preview of the game..I was hoping to get a good preview/info for the game…but all he can could conjure up was his hatred for Napoli. You must like making yourself enemies. The picture of the garbage is irrelevant to the game and I am glad that Napoli beat Juventus today..to give most of the juve fans what they deserve …NOTHING!Posted from
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Dav, you know, getta fuck ooutta here, Alessio is the a black and white, from the heart to the soul,hi’s our, and Juve situation is ours completely,we’re not prostitutes, sorry, my English is not very well, but in every case WE are united, we are with Juve!
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the preview was a bit much seeing as though juve are in fact playing garbage and i think he maybe eating his own words now
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I don’t eat anything. Napoli is the shithole of Italy, and the team is likewise. They are no better than Inter, all they field is a few shitty Italian players and Argentines. Funny that their only good Italian player is only a half-Italian…this comes from the same shithole in Italy that cheered on Argentina in World Cup 90.
I’ll take a shitty year and the glory of being Italy’s greatest clubs over Napoli. I’m ready to write this season off but always better to be a Juventino than anything else.
Dav, and anyone who doesn’t like my preview, go to hell you astroturf fans. If you don’t like my writing, don’t read it. If you think we should all be friendly in Serie A, you picked the wrong league to watch. Napoli and Juve hate each other, Lazio and Roma, Inter and Roma, Inter and Juve, Inter and Milan, Palermo and Catania….get over yourself. Go read Goal.com if you want emotionless pointless dribble.
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Alessio,
LAVEZZZZZZZI!!!!!!!!!!!! Juventus blows and you’re a loser!!! Forza Napoli.Posted from
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in all seriousness it is your management that have caused this crisis for juve.
I really don’t know why you care, voyeur. If you were a juventino this would be different, but you hate us. Why do you give a shit? And no, it’s not. Even if we had Xabi Alonso and Rio fuckin Ferdinand, they’d probably be injured right now. Doesn’t matter if they buy a world-class XI if none of them are able to play.
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John,
This game changes nothing. Lavezzi is a little diving bitch and Napoli is still the merda del sud…
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I thought Poulsen was one of our better players, and Knezevic was average until his horrid clearance.
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sooo ranieri is on some serious shit! holy shit..was he serious - ADP for PDC?!?!?! i want new managment - not just the coach the WHOLE upper level needs to be changed. this is bullshit. we also need to get healthy, but thats not an excuse, we need a coach who can motivate out team instead of bringing us one loss after the next, at this rate we will end up back in serie b next season, and ADP, Gigi, trez, etc. won’t be around any more
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I was pissed off when Amauri didn’t celebrate his goal, sure, Napoli brought you to Italy but that was 8 years ago, we’re paying you now and we’re in crisis. Give us something to be positive about, jesus christ.
I’m on a the sack-Ranieri bandwagon now. We need a young manager with ideas who knows Juventus well…aka BRING DESCHAMPS BACK.
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So, I watched the game and didn’t exactly ..erm… cheer for Juve (if you catch my meaning), but even I dont think the team that lost to Napoli is Juve. If anything, Napoli beat Juve’s reserve team - who where all those baby faces out there?
I also wonder at Ranieri substituting ADP out - I understand the practicalities of trying to go home with at least a point, but it sure looks like you dont trust your team to win.
On the other hand, maybe the substitution had to do with resting ADP in front of the CL game this week.
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It was for resting him for the CL, but he should have taken out Molinaro for Giovinco.
If anything, Napoli beat Juve’s reserve team - who where all those baby faces out there?
I agree, but the standings don’t care who your team fields…
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alessio - ahhh the satisfation I get when I read your moaning, bitching….after another poor juve performance.
it must of killed you when hamsik scored within 2 mins of juve taking the lead!
the pain you must feel…I only can hope that it continues
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Correction: Juve was the team of Italy, until they disgraced not only Serie A, but all of Italia
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“Sorry Palermitani, a mainlander couldn’t ever support your team”
Personally, I prefer it that way….
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Personally, I prefer it that way…
Works out for both of us, then. Juve still is the team of Italy, there are still tifosi throughout the peninsula…against Palermo last March I remember hearing the Juventini outcheering the Palermo fans for parts of the game..those weren’t Torinesi. and if we disgraced Italia, then we should give the world cup to France. Our players won it. (Also thanks to another Juventino, Trezeguet) Our coach won it. But it’s always been that way…Paolo Rossi, Gaetano Scirea, Dino Zoff, and the 30s world titles. Pick one or the other or quit bitchin
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Alessio are you saying that the Juve players where the only ones who did anything in the 06 world cup or am i interpreting this wrong?
Sorry but i can only recall one Juventini being in the 06 world cup all star XI, that would be GIGI.
Marco Materazzi
Luca Toni
Alessandro Del Piero
Alberto Gilardino
Fabio Grosso
Vincenzo Iaquinta
Filippo Inzaghi
Andrea Pirlo
Francesco Totti
Gianluca ZambrottaSeems to me that everyone got a peice of the action and helped Italia win it. To say that YOUR players won it just showed how mad you are cause of the Napoli game.
I have never seen you like this, seems like you put and throw your toys on the ground whne you beloved team loses.
IMO theres no defending Juve’s honor, they cheated and they got caught. Gave every team in Italy a bad name. You just cant defend that.
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That lost of players i gave where the players that scored throughout the tournament.
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*list, MAN im drunk.
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IMO theres no defending Juve’s honor, they cheated and they got caught.
Sure I can. The trial was laughably rigged against us. A lot of bullshit.
Sorry but i can only recall one Juventini being in the 06 world cup all star XI, that would be GIGI.
I guess Camoranesi, Zambrotta, and CANNAVARO are really overrated, huh.
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I have to admit after that performance I was hoping Napoli won this game for the good of the team…maybe ranieri finally gets sacked. If De Ceglie was fit to play…why go with Molinaro!? And i know Giovinco may have been slightly injured but he’d have done better to start him and sub him off after an hour than play him for…TEN MINUTES!
Also, if u look at the subs, our subs came after Napoli finished all 3. Ranieri seems to sleep on the job and then remembers “oh yeah! I can make 3 changes to the team!”. People can go on defending Ranieri but I think he really sucks!Posted from
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Oh, and if Knezevic sucks this bad, starting Salihams as a defender would have probably been better. Then we could field a midfield of Nedved, Marchisio, Poulsen and Giovinco.
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soo how long until we get our new coach?
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Wow talk about shit hitting the fan here on this forum. Alessio, I would’ve held it down with the comments but after that second half performance I just needed to get away. I’ve still got to vent so I’m planning a post about this game in the future. Maybe before Real, maybe after. But this game really speaks volumes of where the team’s at, where it’s heading, and what needs to be corrected.
Still thinking…
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Maybe if you guys and us put our clubs teams together, we’d have 1 mega team that would be capable of winning?
Buffon in nets, GC and Juan as defenders, De Rossi, Aqui and Gio in the midfield, Totti and Del P up front…Posted from
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