Juventus Mercato 2009: The Departures

By: agiamba | June 10th, 2009
   

So we’ve done a post on the possible arrivals at Juventus this mercato. As part of the season review, Martin of the Arsenal Offside did a list of players who are likely to depart the team. I think it’s a great idea, so I’m copying it. Perhaps I should have done the departures before the arrivals…but whatever. That’s how we roll at the Juve Offside. It may sound strange, but I am even more interested in who is leaving. It shows the direction the club is taking in a variety of ways, the least of which, the formation we’ll be using. Without further ado, I present the possible departures from Juventus.


Except for Nedved, of course.

Certain:
Jorge Andrade: Cause we rescinded his contract. All told, we paid about €2.5million per game. And very average games at that. Fuck you, Agricola.
Dario Knezevic: Hoooorayyy try-before-you-buy! His ass is on the first bus back to Livorno.
Pavel Nedved: He wants to spend time with his family….and practice golf so he can kick Mauro and Del Piero’s ass whenever they play. “We had training” won’t be a legit excuse for them.
Sergio Almiron: The management has given up on this guy. We loaned him to Monaco to get his confidence and form back so he could rejoin Juve, the loan to Fiorentina was strictly to try and raise his valuation so we can recoup some money from his signing. Whether he goes out on loan again or the team decides to end this monkey business and take the hit, he won’t be wearing bianconero next year. (unless of course we sell him to Siena, or more appropriate for his level, Ascoli)

Strong Possibility:
David Trezeguet: Trez hasn’t been getting enough minutes since coming back from injury, and is desperate to play. His agent, Antonio Caliendo (Maicon’s too), has been talking his big mouth off for the last 2 months about how Roma or Barca or someone are keen on him. Great. The management has hardly helped matters either, saying we’d sell him for the right price and if he wants to leave, it’ll happen. Last summer it was “he was untouchable,” even in the face of large bids from Barcelona. The good news is if there’s anyone who can keep him around, it’s Ferrara. With Ranieri in-charge, I think this transfer would have been in the certain section. Ferrara played alongside him and I think Trez believes in him as a coach. All I ask for next summer is a summer without massive speculation about Trez’s future, he can’t enjoy it too much either.
Michele Paolucci: Who, you say? A Juve youth product currently co-owned by Juve and Udinese, but playing for Catania. He has scored a respective amount of goals for Catania. Juve’s interested in D’Agostino and Udinese need a replacement for departing bullshit-goal scorer Fabio Quaglierella…I would not be surprised to see the Friuliani buy the other half of his contract, even without a D’Agostino move. I don’t think he can step into Quag’s shoes immediately, but he scored a nice amount and it’s always good to have competition for your other young guns like Sanchez and Floro Flores.
Marco Marchionni: Three years ago, this kid was at Parma lighting up the wing. One of Italy’s few natural wingers, he was routinely being called up by the Azzurri. His career has stalled, hardcore, since his free transfer to Juventus. Marco had a good season in Serie B, and then was injured our entire first season back. This season he has remained relatively injury-free, very important with Camoranesi’s injury problems, but has hardly been staking a strong claim to a starting shirt. Combine this averageness with the strong hints we’ll be moving to a winger-less 4-3-1-2, and you can see where Marco does not fit in the picture. His agent confirmed this to CalcioMercato, saying ““Marco could end up on the market due to a technical choice.” He’s been linked with moves to Fiorentina and Roma. I really like the guy, but he hasn’t really been performing too stellar and the formation next year will probably not have any space for him. Best of luck wherever you go, Marco.

Some Possibility:
Tiago: His form has improved, but if we sign D’Agostino, that may mean the end of his bianconero spell. If we’re moving to a 3-man midfield, we should have 6 CM’s in midfield, which is why I’d like to keep him. But he might not like the idea of playing 3rd fiddle…it would be him or…
Christian Poulsen: He’s largely flopped, and another CM would just bury him in the pecking order. He has a pretty high salary as well. There’s been some offers from Fenerbahce, but his agent has said he’s settled in Turin and does not want to move to Turkey. Anotherwords, he likes practicing with the elite and collecting a nice paycheck.
Jonathan Zebina: Jonathan has never really been liked by most Juventini, (myself strongly included) his performances are average, his salary is high, and his minutes next season are anything but guaranteed. The twist is Ranieri’s departure; the duo never got along, but it could have been due to Zebina’s temper and his unbelievably comically bad season debut in 2007-2008, but he seems to think Ferrara believes in him, having started twice. It could be because Grygera was injured, too.
Mauro Camoranesi: Same reason as Marchionni, technical reasons. The reasons he might stay, though, are that he’s a club hero, he’s world-class when uninjured, and he’s shown before he can play a bit more centrally, even if he doesn’t like it. Though we might not go with a 4-4-2 by default, that doesn’t mean with players like Criscito, De Ceglie, Giovinco, Salihamidzic, and Camo that we can’t bring it back on occasion. If the club gets a decent offer (given his age and injuries), they might go for it.
Paolo De Ceglie: Sort of ditto to Giovinco, with Criscito likely coming back and supposed Juve interest in Dossena (ew no) he’d be squeezed out. His agent has been linking him to several clubs including Udinese in a possible swap-deal. I wouldn’t be totally opposed to his temporary departure if we do indeed bring back Criscito.

Little Possibility:
Sebastian Giovinco: With the arrival of in-kind player Diego from Werder Bremen, he may find his minutes even more constricted for next season and look for a possible loan, or gasp, co-ownership. Udinese wants him in exchange for D’Agostino. The positive news is that if Secco sells Giovinco, there will be a public outcry in Turin that rivals the anti-Cairo riots.
Cristian Molinaro: Like it or not, I really do not see him leaving. The management likes his work ethic and his lack-of-primadonnaness, and why not, he’s a decent player. If we bring back Criscito, maybe he can teach CR28 how to cross. I imagine he’ll be kept as a reserve, and for his determination, attitude, and salary, he’s a good candidate.
Zdenek Grygera: The Czech had a good first season and some good performances, but shouldn’t really be starting. I would imagine Zebina would get the chop before Grygera, but it’s possible if we bring in another right-back. Not a bad reserve, though.

No Chance:
Gianluigi Buffon: This guy endured a lot towards the end of the season, and his extremely-visible disappointment with the team’s performance led to a lot of rumors of him moving on. Unlike Kaka or Ibra, he said “shut the hell up” and issued a personal communique on his official website confirming his love for Juventus and desire to help the team improve. I was glad to hear that he discussed the future with Blanc and Secco (not Ranieri before he was sacked…that was a pretty strong inclination) and they gave him answers. Too often you hear of players who have no relationship with the club and can’t get any response from them, I was glad to know that they are willing to talk to the players.
Alessandro Del Piero: Blah blah blah, Juve has other priorities other than extending his contract right now, OH MY GOD DEL PIERO MIGHT BE LEAVING JUVE!!! God, I wish I worked for one of these papers. Do you know how much money these journalists make? It’d be like writing a plot for Family Guy, take two unrelated things and when bored enough, find some flimsy way to connect them.
Giorgio Chiellini: Goal.com gave me my chuckle for the day when they linked Chiellini AND Buffon to Arsenal.
Claudio Marchisio: Signing D’Agostino doesn’t have anything to do with Marchisio’s position in the team.

Predicted Departures:
De Ceglie (hopefully on co-ownership), Marchionni, Paolucci, one of our right backs. (Grygera, Zebina, Mellberg)

Trez is gonna stay, that’s all I have to say about that.


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  • Rinaldo
    A 4-man midfield is a must, Oliviero. I don't see a trophy-winning team playing with a 3-man defense. That being said, it's absolutely essential that we buy a more offensive LB and RB. Grygera and Molinaro are going to suck in a 4-3-1-2. I actually prefer Zebina to Grygera now. Criscito is a must, and I would hate to see us lose De Ceglie.

    And Sissoko does go to ground very easily.
  • Oliviero
    Sissoko does not dive a lot...
    just a suggestion but what if we played with 3 backs and 2 holding midfielders to shield them? so basically a 3-2-4-1
  • Nnahoj
    Why am I constantly hearing stories about us being interested in Dossena, Grosso and Pasqual when we still own the rights to Criscito? We shouldn't even be thinking about signing another left-sided player! What the hell is going on?
  • adam
    Anthony, Sissoko dives alot.
  • Alex...I can't even remember any individual cases where Sissoko may have dived. How is he a constant diver lol?

    And you evidently missed the Juve-Real Madrid games. I'm not claiming Sissoko is the greatest defensive midfielder in the world. I'm just saying his ball winning is excellent. If he was played as a holding defensive midfielder and stopped Sissodinhoing up the field all the time, he'd show his true ability. Lets hope Ferrara will be able to get the best out of him next season.
  • Jim
    yep
  • I saw that Jim. Burst my bubble for the day. Oh well, at least Legro got a chance to start over Gamberini.
  • Jim
    i don't think he kept cannavaro out for tactical reasons...

    Italy captain Fabio Cannavaro sat out with a right calf problem when coach Marcello Lippi tested his starting lineup for the Confederations Cup in a training game Friday against a local club.
  • discharge
    juve should sign benzema to replace trezeguet!and should sign one of good rightback ( zapata or dossena )!keep Marchisio&Giovinco also,its a good young talent.if juve still looking for midfielder I suggest sign tony kross or sammy khadira.
  • discharge
    am totally fans of juve...
    just keep de ceglie,he is good player...
    he can play the ball as defender and winger as long as on left side.And del piero is a soul of the club,he should play even for a minute.
  • Lippi gave some clues as to the starting XI he will adopt against USA by fielding a back four of Gianluca Zambrotta, Nicola Legrottaglie, Giorgio Chiellini and Fabio Grosso.

    Haha screw you Cannavaro....hopefully Ferrara keeps Legro-Chiellini as well.

    Supposedly Juve is looking at 7.5million euros for Dossena. No thanks. I'd consider him for free..if only to sell for a profit.
  • adam
    What's going on? Ranieri isn't here anymore thats whats going on.
  • “They all unfounded,” [Rumors linking us with a swoop for Pandev] Secco said of the stories. “We are fine just the way we are in attack.”

    THANK GOD.

    Such a statement appears to end speculation suggesting David Trezeguet will leave Juventus. “I have received offers for him, but they were not sufficient,” Secco explained. “I believe it would be difficult to let him go to another Italian club. Anyway he forms part of this club's history.”

    “Juventus want to keep Trezeguet,” Caliendo told L'Equipe. “Alessio Secco told me that he is unsellable and not on the market.”

    Maybe Secco is learning something....gasp! Diego instead of an overpriced big-name, and focusing on the parts of the team that need fixing?! What's going on.
  • Sam
    Good on ya Armando Bedaj!
  • armando bedaj
    Diego is the best player in the world. I am a craizy fan of Juventus.
  • Comrade
    I agree with Alessio. Giovinco should play behind two strikers. Remember the home match against Bate when were were trailing 0-2? Giovinco puts a perfect pass to Iaquinta, the cannon finishes perfectly. Twice! I would love to see more of that combination next season.
  • Sam
    Yeha that would be great, but isisnt gonna happen any time soon.
  • scratch that, put rossi in for iaquinta/alex. I WANT JUVENTUS TO BUY GIUSEPPE ROSSI! JUST IMAGINE HIM AND GIOVINCO TOGETHER!!!!!
  • we could use the milan style xmas tree? this would be 9 italian starters, and not bad either. we could use a new right back, and if we keep de ceglie we could use him in the midfield instead of camo and put d'ago on the rightish (it wouldnt really be a "wing")

    ............iaquinta/alex...........
    ..........giovinco...diego..........
    ....d'agostino.sissoko.camoranesi...
    criscito.chiellini.legro.balzaretti/?
    ..............buffon................

    i would prefer de ceglie to stay though, especially after the milan game, lol.
  • Sam
    i type to quick for my own good. Sorry for Spelling mistakes.
  • Sam
    take for example the Catania game in which Giovinco debuted for us, numerous chances from close range miseed EVERY SIGLE ONE! But im sure that will improve along with his physicallity.
  • Sam
    yeh from previous games i have watched Giovinco may have a good long shot, but his strikers killer instinct isint there. And yes he has the eye for a killer through ball. A ball of and Attackin Mid, I would love to see Giovinco start as an AMC, and Alex your completely worng about Del Piero, he maybe old, and alow, but that guy can pull shit outtta his ass and just change a game, he still has that ability.
  • I really don't think Giovinco is best up top, that's my beef with the switch...he doesn't have that killer eye for goal as much as he has a killer eye for passing.
  • del_piero
    To my mind if Juve will sign D'Agostino,Jansen or Pasqual or Dossena(possible),and young talented right back,and will keep Marchisio,Giovinco and De Ceglie,Juve will be very strong machine and first pretendent on Scudetto,because Kaka and Ibra are leaving own clubs,in conclusion Forza Juve to third star on football shirt!!!!! I believe in Juve!!!!!!!
  • alex
    honestly my biggest gripe with sissoko is his constant diving for a player whos meant to be a tough tackling midfielder its a disgrace. its worse when a defender dives though
  • alex
    im sorry sissoko is not even in the same league with mascherano regarding anything ESPECIALLY winning the ball.
  • Shit is a harsh word, Gattuso wasn't shit....but he wasn't as good as Sissoko when he was 24.
  • lev lucien...Giovinco can still develop more physically.

    And when it comes to strictly BALL WINNING, yes Sissoko is better than Mascherano, Toure and Gattuso. He's not good at distributing the ball...but its up to the coach to put him in a role where he won't have to distribute. If he's put in a role where he simply has to win the ball, then he's excellent. Gattuso was shit when he was Sissoko's age...some people forget that.
  • adam
    Del Piero isn't finished yet BUT I do think he should be on the bench. If we play him next season and the season after that, what happens when he retires? Giovinco should be starting because he will be helpful to us for the next 10 years while Del Piero, as great as he is, will only be helpful for another year or 2.
  • adam
    Maradona had alot more muscle but Giovinco still has alot of skill and he has yet to use it.
  • lev lucien
    push OFF the ball*
  • lev lucien
    Maradona's body wasnt the same as Seba's. Height isnt the only important measurement.

    Diego was almost impossible to push of the ball....Seba not so much
  • Let's be honest, since his catastrophic knee injury, he's never had any pace. As for being ball greedy, he played out many perfect assists to Iaquinta..and he was all the creativity we had up front. Iaquinta or Trez can't create anything, and with the general long ball tactic it was up to the Del to create up top. Which he did somewhat...it'll be better when there's other playmakers.
  • alex
    im sorry but he hasnt got any pace left and he was incredibly ball greedy!
  • del piero showed last season he isnt up to it anymore. hes got no pace and was ball greedy to the point of selfishness.

    Wrong wrong wrong.
  • alex
    del piero showed last season he isnt up to it anymore. hes got no pace and was ball greedy to the point of selfishness. he can still be a vital player but only as a sub he is 34! giovinco is the present and future of juventus the fact he is a local lad as well he will become more legendary than most players
  • Sam
    yeha i know alex, that wat im saying i would liek to see him play the SUPPORTING STRIKER role sort of what del piero does right now, but it wont happen at the moment, BECAUSE DEL PIERO WILL BE PREFFERED OVER HIM AS A STRIKER!
  • alex
    i dont understand your logic sam. he would be A SUPPORTING STRIKER as in running rings round the opposition, shooting and passing to the main striker. then you have diego running onto balls as well
  • Sam
    "According to recent rumours Udinese requested Giovinco as part of the deal but Cobolli stated: «Ferrara is very interested in Sebastian»."

    i hope that "interest" means good "interest"
  • Sam
    yeha i would absolultly love diego and giovicno together, if one is not firing on the night, the other can step in, and if they are both firing, who knows what can happen! but lets be real, we will not be playing Giovinco as a striker, it just wont happen i reckon.
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