Juventus – Livorno

By: roberto | September 18th, 2009
   

Livorno this weekend at home. Last week they hosted Milan at the Stadio Armando Picchi in Livorno, and a few things come to mind after having watched it. First off, Lucarelli canbe a pain in the ass. That evening in Livorno the 33 year old didn’t disappoint his hometown fans. So he didn’t score and the game ended 0-0, big deal. Thiago Silva needed to put in an outstanding effort just to keep him off the scorecard. Who would’ve guessed eh Gianfranco?

Secondly, the Stadio in Livorno has the worst pitch I’ve ever seen in my life. Dry, grass-less, and basically impossible for Clarence Seedorf to derive any motivation to hustle whatsoever. Who can’t relate? Finally, the Olimpico isn’t Armando’s Wonderland and Juventus isn’t the team with all the tamed Brazilians… just the injured ones. More preview after the jump.

Felipe Melo is out, Diego is out, and Tiago- he’s Brazilian right? Close enough, he’s out as well. Melo is suffering from some distortive trauma to the left ankle and Tiago is down with a bit of contracture to the left thigh picked up during our deserved tie against Bordeaux. Both are apparently sidelined for seven days which is great news considering our match next week is at the Stadio Luigi Ferraris against Genoa. Goosebumps.

Diego’s high right thigh muscle strain, which was originally feared to keep him sidelined for several weeks, should only see him out of the squad for this weekend’s match against Livorno. That means we should have him back close to full strength before we battle it out for the top spot against our Serie A “B” team, midweek on Thursday, September the 24th.

“I am feeling much better, and I will be back on the pitch very soon,” Diego told Tuttosport.”It was not the result we expected, but we know that it’s not easy to win in the Champions League as the play is different,” he added. “We are coming off the back of three wins in the league, but the competition in Europe increases. The point is not enough for our group, but there is still plenty of time to recover and move ahead.”

Fabio’s story is a little more serious compared with the last three. He suffered a first degree distortion to the long muscle of the left thigh which will see him out for two to three weeks during which physiotherapy and gradual training will be carried out. So far it doesn’t seem likely he’ll be available for Bayern Munich on the 30th. Somewhere out there Legrottaglie is smiling. If he’s looking for a trip to Cape Town next year, here’s his best shot.

Rounding off the infirmary report, Sissoko’s still out while Del Piero, who was busy attending the presentation ceremony for the Davis Cup tennis play-off between Italy and Switzerland today in Genoa, shed some light on his recovery progress.

“I hope to be back in 7-10 days,” ADP told Il Secolo XIX. ”However, I feel better. We’ll see how it goes at the start of next week. It’s annoying to watch games like that against Bordeaux from the stands, because I want to live them as a protagonist.”

For the line-up this weekend one would have to expect Giovinco to start as trequartista again. So far his performances have been positive as he’s been steadily removing the rust with each passing moment. In attack rumour has it Amauri will be rested and Davide Trezeguet will got the nod to start up front alongside Vincenzo Iaquinta. For me it’s a toss-up on who should be rested in favour of the Frenchman. Amauri’sinches away from his first goal and both him and Iaquinta have really been working overtime for us.

Speaking of Amauri, apparently we’re planning on extending his contract past the 2012 mark to 2013 as well as increasing his salary by €500,000 a campaign. I’ve got no complaints here. After all you want to keep your World Cup heroes happy, right Alberto?

Ok back to the line-up against Livorno. Behind Giovinco you’ll probably see Poulsen in the middle covering Felipe’s spot flanked by Camoranesi and/or Marchisio. Claudio looked pretty tired against Bordeaux and I’d be surprised if he has enough in the tank for tomorrow’s match. If he doesn’t, Ciro might use Salihams in his place at left midfield, who’s recently been training with the team, or use his abundance of healthy full-backs like De Ceglie in there instead.

In defense we’ve got Zebina/Grygera there at the back again finally, each could start ahead of Martin Caceres on the right, then we’ve got Chiellini and Legrottaglie in the middle with either Molinaro or Grosso starting on the left. In goal we have best goalkeeper in the world. ‘Don’t call it a comeback, he’s been here for years’. Basically, Ferrara has plenty of options to patch up the holes in our starting XI but he’ll need to use some of his creativity intuitively according to Livorno’s strengths and weaknesses to ensure we successfully pick up where we left off.

“I expect us to be ruthless and not to look at Livorno’s place in the table. We should not miss out on the points. It happened last year sometimes too much,” he added before reflecting on his side’s injury crisis.”I am not worried by the injuries, but I am looking at the positive aspects. The substitutes have always been ready when needed,” Ferrara concluded.

 

Juventus' French forward David Trezeguet (C) celebrates with his teammates Felipe Melo (R) and Amauri after scoring against Lazio during their Italian Serie A football match on September 12, 2009 at Rome's Olympic stadium. Juventus won 2-0.

IERI… OGGI… DOMANI… SEMPRE JUVE!!!


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  • Marco
    There is no one in the world that argue against Gio not having talent. He is a brillant soccer player. He is very smart with the ball, and has very refined skill. The more i think of it the more i would love to just experiment with a 4 3 2 1 formantion. AMAURI on top with Diego and Gio behind. I think this formation could really work well. This could be a very up tempo team, Melo Marchiso and Camo behind them. What is the possibilty?
  • Sofia
    i really dont care if that was rude to be honest. exactly, alessio we are all juventini here so the giovinco attack going on in here is disgusting. very, very sad.
  • HolyMann
    "He is not a problem right now, but if he ever becomes one Juventus will have to choose between keep developing him or immediate club success."

    its happening right now, he's developing and the club is having success, nothing wrong in doing both.....
  • Pablo
    Yes Alessio, I'm from Peru. I'm moving to Vancouver in December or January though, so I'll have to wake up at 5 am to watch Calcio games :S.

    And sorry for the advertisement but: Peru is a great place to visit (lots of culture, ruins, beautiful views, beaches, amazonian jungle, etc.) so whenever you got the chance, come visit :D.

    And I also agree with giving Giovinco some playing time, whether as a trequartista or support striker (as long as we keep wining). He is not a problem right now, but if he ever becomes one Juventus will have to choose between keep developing him or immediate club success.
  • mike
    on a different subject, Conte is the new Atalanta coach
  • Sam
  • bianconeri
    The Criscito deal has to be resolved this summer, by the looks of Ferrera's plans it looks like Molinaro will be sold or hopefully given to Genoa to ease the Criscito deal. But if we don't get him then then I doubt we will ever get him.
  • I was watching Schalke vs Bayern the other day, and saw Rafinha for the first time. He is pretty good offensively IMHO, a lot like Dani Alves and has a great cross, and will be an excellent investment on the right side. Other options are buying back Criscito ASAP (although I do not know whether that is possible).
    Any new prospect from the youth teams coming up?
  • bianconeri
    Don't worry Papai, once Del Piero is fit again he will start over one of Amauri or Iaquinta.

    But I'm mostly worried about our defence, Chievo and Livorno got too many chances on goal and if not for Buffon we would not be in the same postion on the table that we are in now. Something needs to be done there.
  • Sam
    agreed papai
  • I doubt whether starting two big men up front is the correct long term strategy for juve. The big men should be paired with someone who has fantasia qualities, like ADP or Giovinco.
  • Sam
    yeah.......
  • Pablo, eres de Peru? Donde? Yo fui una vez a Arequipa para visitar mi amigo, fue excellente, las casas blancas son muy parecidas a Bari/Puglia en Italia, nunca habia hecho surf sobre la arena, hasta mi viaje.
  • I knew it was never going to be easy for Giovinco, and that was why I initially was ok with Ranieri not playing him. The hype was high, and by benching him for a bit it would give him lower expecations. He has the talent though, but simply, he's never gotten a real long run out in the team like the other players had. Marchisio hardly lit the world in fire in his first few games, but has grown into his role amazingly, because he's had a lot of playing time.

    Ivo, as it stands now, yes, I'd start Iaquinta over Amauri no question. Amauri is a talented player, I don't want to knock him, and he's helped out a lot up front, it's not like he's wandering around Trez-style without the goals. But Iaquinta is producing, and that's as easy as it gets. 12 goals in 15 games in the last 6 months starting with his brace against Roma. Cannot argue with that.
  • Ivo
    Hmm, Sofia, I will tell you what my mom did teach me - not to respond to your comment in the same manner you did.

    In fact, I was never really pushing for Giovinco to play. I always thought he was overhyped. If he proves me wrong, I will be the first to admit it and I will be glad - since Juve will be better off that way.

    HolyMann, I am interested, why would you pick Iaquinta? I think Alessio might be feeling the same way, and since you guys know Juve pretty well, I am interested why you lean that way? Am I not seeing something in Vincenzo I should be?
  • Sam
    I agreee, saying Giovinco should be playing Serie B is really really harsh. I mean hes had a couple of games and none of them have been terrible, hes still coming in with some good touches etc. Give the kid time and he wil shine!
  • Easy there Sofia...we're all Juventini.
  • Pablo
    Wow, that was rude... now we don't need Inter fands to justify our cursing .
  • Sofia
    Ivo, what i was calling pathetic was the hypocrisy of the comments left here. And i didn't single you out. I was speaking in general. He is a Torino native and I'm sure his blood is bianconero but guess what just because the kid is having a few off days doesn't mean he deserves to be in serie b! THAT is where I am singling you out and calling your view pathetic. give the kid a damn break. it is people like you that i really despise in the football world because you think that shit is supposed to happen over night, well welcome to the real world - it doesn't. so either be patient and let this kid ride out his difficult moment the way he needs or seriously shut the fuck up because your only making the situation worse. didn't your mom teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all?
  • Sam
    These fixtures are crazy! We are playing Genoa in 3 days, then Bologna in another 3 days then 3 days later Champs League, Bayern isint this over worked like fuck! our team already looks tired, imagine after this.
  • Marco
    For Juve to stand a chance in the Champions League we will need more production in the attacking third on a consistant manner - we are far away from that. To be ELITE (and we are very close) we will have to capitalize with more consistancy. I will leave it at that. Forza JUVENTUS!!!!!
  • HolyMann
    "What next, Roma winning Champions League this year? Hell, why not? Oh wait…"

    hahaha, Kasia you cracked me up

    IVO, i would choose Iaquinta
  • Nnahoj
    LOL! Just watching the post match and FSC and I must say, Roma has some of the fattest fans I've ever seen!!! Hahaha!!!
  • Nnahoj
    Sure MJ, Totti is better THEN Del Piero...whatever the hell that means...
  • Kasia
    What next, Roma winning Champions League this year? Hell, why not? Oh wait...
  • Oh god MJ I needed the laugh, thank you. Roma winning a Scudetto was never going to happen, and with Ranieri? Ha!!
  • Ivo
    Amauri hasn’t scored in 2009. Lethal?

    Hell yeah lethal. Be honest alessio, if you could chose one striker to finish a pass to score, who would you pick over Ama and Iaq? I think Amauri just needs to score one this season so he can relax a bit, and he will show his best. Not saying we should sell Iaquinta or anything, but if we were ever to play a 4-3-2-1 with Gio and Diego as att mids, I would play Amauri over Iaquinta in a heartbeat. Its funny how quickly we forget how good he was when he came to Juve. Which is really hard to do for any player.

    hant00, you are more than excused for chiming in. I agree with what you had to say for sure :)
  • Marchionni is being fielded too far up I think. He's a midfielder, not really an attacking winger.

    Thanks for the correction, Nnahoj. Seems like every game Gio played last year, he had an assist or two.
  • MJ
    JUst wanna let you guys know we're back ROMA IS BACK Its time 4 the scudetti. FORZA ROMA FORZA TOTTI NO TOTTI NO PARTY BETTER THEN DEL PIERO!!!
  • bianconeri
    Nnahoj, Marchionni is one of the most inconsistent players in serie a.
  • Nnahoj
    Just a little fact check, Amauri has scored in 2009...guess who with the assist...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    P.S. Watching Roma - Fiorentina and I've come to a startling conclusion...Marchionni is utter rubbish! 4.5 million seems like too much for him at this point.
  • HolyMann
    Alessio & hant00, you're absolutely correct....
  • Guest
    excuse me for chiming in, but i think this iaq debate shows how fickle and demanding fans are, and that could be bad influence for the player himself. remember the case of adebayor a couple seasons ago, was arse's top scorer with 30+ goals, yet some camps still criticized him for being so wasteful that with the chances he'd got he could've amassed 50+. it hit him ("arse's fans don't love me", etc. etc.) and culminated in his goal celebration last week. i know this is just one side of ade's story but i think we could take a lesson there. for me, as long as he scores in the right moment (albeit after a ton of sitters) and his goals provide juve with valuable points and victories, i won't care about his misses. Those should be covered by other strikers in our team. let's take a-glass-half-full view on this matter..
  • I would take Amauri over Iaq any day. Except for the last few games :)

    Amauri hasn't scored in 2009. Lethal?

    Giovinco is class and he really has played decently the last 3 games, not mind-blowing, but decent. We should be happy, he just needs time to grow.
  • I don't agree with one thing you said, Marco. Iaquinta may not be a goal-machine but as long as he scores the important goals, I'm plenty satisfied. Trez just needs to shake off the rust, like Giovinco, you need more than 2 games in 6 months to get into form.
  • Ivo
    Wow, Sofia, you surely like the word 'pathetic'. The thing is, your opinion is your opinion, just like mine is mine. And he didn't only play one game, he played three somewhat important games - Lazio, Bordeaux, Livorno. And he didn't contribute anything to the team. I love the fact the GIO is torino native and his heart beats zebra but from what I have seen, it's MY OPINION that he will never reach ADP status at Juve like everyone else expects him to. I wish he would, but im very skeptical from what I have seen..

    The aforementioned has nothing to do with me not wanting to develop youth at Juve. I love Marchisio and his progress, but he actually took the chance he was given and kicked ass. De Ceglie is fun to watch too, he is still nervous but remember that assist at the beginning of the season, the one-two? He plays with balls. On the other hand, Giovinco gets lost out there, which for a treqartista is pretty awful.

    Again, my opinion. I can start calling whatever you believe "pathetic" and "shameful" but thats not the point.

    I do have to admit that I am slowly getting convinced by you guys to want to see Diego and Gio play in the same lineup. It may be risky for the overall defense of the team, but if they commit and track back BOTH OF THEM maybe it will succeed. I guess it is up to Ferrara to make it work and show it to us.

    PS. Iaquinta is just like Luca Toni. He has 10 chances and makes one. Amauri, is not in form, but he is more lethal. I would take Amauri over Iaq any day. Except for the last few games :)
  • HolyMann
    i think ur over doing it just a little bit....you guys are making Iaquinta seem like shit when as a matter of fact when he's on the pitch, he's one of the players that works his socks off....granted there may be players who are able to finish better then him, but that doesnt mean he chokes when he gets the chance.....did you all forget his goal against Chelsea last year?? i'd like to see Inzaghi score that!!!
  • bianconeri
    I agree with Marco, one goal a game is good but when you take into account that he can score 2-3 goals a game that just isnt good enough at this level. In difficult games all you get is 1-2 chances, so if it takes Iaquinta 10 chances to score a goal then we're gonna have a problem.
  • o_man
    Marco,for all of Amauri's skills he can barely do shit.His stupid slow cross overs are so predictable.His taking the ball left and whacking it with his left foot aimlessly is a joke.So I'd Iaquinta over that fake Brazilian anytime
  • Marco
    A top class striker with the oppertunies Iaquinta is given would be averaging 2 quite possibly 3. and that is the the point i am trying to make. Our build up is not highlighted due to the lack of finishing.
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