Juventus-Inter; Not what it Should be

By: agiamba | April 17th, 2009
   

Two weeks ago, I would have been a lot more excited for this game. But with the Scudetto race over, we are just playing for pride. With Milan approaching, 2nd place is still up for contention, and some say we absolutely need to beat out Milan for it. I frankly couldn’t care which we finish, both of them are losing spots and whoever wants to be the “closest loser” can have the honor. Inter coaches and players are saying the Scudetto isn’t won yet, which is understandable given the clubs history, but it is. Even if Juventus wins, 7 points is too great to conquer, especially given our recent form. But there’s still pride. J. Zanetti called this game bigger than the Milan derby. For us, this is certainly bigger than the Derby della Mole. Let’s hope Claudio and Co. can keep the 3 points in Turin. Full preview after the jump.

Statistics from Juventus.com….
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INTER IN AWAY MATCHES
The two defeats suffered during the 2008-09 championship were both suffered away from Milan, even thug the first only on paper since it happened during the derby with Milan listed as the home team. He second defeat came on the last match day of the first round a heavy 3’1 defeat suffered in Bergamo. The rest of the matches brought great satisfaction with 11 victories and only 2 draws, the first of which in the first match of the tournament (1’1 against Sampdoria) and the second in Florence (0-0). Definitely positive is the outcome of the first round, having registered an en-plein with 5 favourable results in as many encounters. The victims were Catania, Lecce, Bologna, Genoa and Udinese. It is good to note the encounters in which Mourinhoàs formation suffered a negative balance in terms of occasions. The circumstance occurred during Atalanta-Inter (8-4), Catania-Inter (7-4), and during Bologna-Inter (4-3). At home, the nerazzurri risked losing during Inter’Roma. A match which ended in a 3’3 draw complete with controversies and which saw the giallorossi dominate in terms of goal chances by 8-5.

THE MOST FAITHFUL
There is one item of data which explain best the strength of Inter during the 2008-09 season. The 5 most utilized players by Mourinho in the championship represent without any doubt the best virtues of the team. The most present is Javier Zanetti, who gathered 31 appearances in 32 match days. Right after the captain is the traditional block represented by Julio Cesar, Ibrahimovic, Maicon and Cambiasso. In all, 25 players were utilized up to now, as opposed to Juventus who made use of 28 players (including the 3 Primavera talents: Ariaudo, Daud and Immobile).

THE APRIL VICTORIES
There is one precedent with an interesting coincidence in which Juventus and Inter met on the 18th of April. It happened in 1971 and even there Inter was launched towards the victory of the scudetto and the margin in the table was 10 points (at the time the points for a victory were 2). The match ended in a draw with a goal in each half. The bianconeri had gone ahead thanks to Marchetti but were equalised thanks to a goal by Inter midfielder Bedin ten minutes from the end of the match. It is, however, a month which traditionally favours Juventus when the bianconeri meet Inter in Turin. The positive series was inaugurated in 1955 with a 3-2 thanks to goals by Praest, Montico and Manente in a year which saw the bianconeri and the nerazzurri unusually placed in mid-table. On the 19th of April 1959 the result was the same but the match was very exciting with the milanesi ahead until 10 minutes from the final whistle when Ferrario and Boniperi turned the result round to a final 2-1 in the nick of time. Another memorable match is that of 1972, decisive in terms of the title race because on that particular Sunday Juventus managed to gain leadership ad the possibility of winning its 14th title. The absolute protagonist was Franco Causio who scored a hat-trick which represents one of the greatest feats of his splendid career. A penalty scored by Brady decided Juventus-Inter in 1982 and inaugurated the series of 1-0 results in April which pursued in 1994 thanks to an own goal by Riccardo Ferri after a cross by Roberto Baggio and came to an end in 1998 thanks to a winning right shot by Del Piero in what was one of the most controversial matches in the history of Italian football. On the other hand the 3-1 on the 14th of April 2001 leaves no room for arguments. In just 12 minutes from the beginning of the second half Tacchinardi, Inzaghi and Del Piero guide Juventus to a victory which is difficult to replicate and which allows our opponents only the chance to get back a consolation goal scored by Christian Vieri from the penalty spot.

Recent Encounters: Who can forget these? For me, they are the most memorable games since Calciopoli, except for maybe the exciting thrashings of Milan. An incredibly tense 1-1 draw at home, followed by an emotional 2-1 win in the San Siro that broke a several-year long home fortress streak. Earlier this season was a game to be forgotten, while Inter was luckily to win, Juventus looked unnaturally scared, creating few chances and generally not having possession.

Recent Form:
Juve- WWW-PointlessInternationalFriendlies-DL.
Inter- WWWWD. Most of them probably undeserved. Two weeks ago was why they are winning the Scudetto and we’re not. We draw Chievo 3-3 at home, same weekend, Inter beats Udinese on a freak own goal.


I love this guy…

Formations:
Juventus- 4-4-2, baby. Inter’s midfield is full of dumb, slowwitted ballwinners. I’d propose the trident for this game, but I think that would be conceding the midfield battle too easily to Inter, especially with Marchisio, Zanetti, and Sissoko out. Ranieri is going to miss out on Camoranesi and Marchisio (suspended), whereas Brazzo, Sissoko, Zanetti, and Manninger will take no part due to injury. The big question mark, obviously, is the midfield, as we’ll be missing 5 players. Some have suggested this is the chance for the flops to prove themselves (Tiago+Poulsen, but I wouldn’t call Poulsen a flop yet) but if that’s our center-duo, I may cry. Play Nedved as a goddamn center-mid! He’s been excellent there thus far and that would free up space for Giovinco to play on the wing. Expect Marchionni to fill in for Camoranesi on the right. Up front? That’s a tricky one. Amauri is back in the group, but I don’t expect to see him play coming back from an injury. Iaquinta is unbenchable right now, so it’s a straight shootout between ADP and Trezeguet to partner him. I would like Trez to start this one, we need a penalty box striker, plus it would be a good show of faith from Ranieri. If we have a midfield of Giovinco-Nedved-Tiago/Poulsen-Marchionni, there will be plenty of creativity and service for the two forwards.
Predicted lineup: Ranieri’s gonna kill me on this one. Buffon; Grygera, Legrottaglie, Chiellini, Molinaro; Marchionni, Tiago, Poulsen, Nedved; ADP, Iaquinta

Not Atalanta 4-3-1-2. Sacking Mancini and hiring Mourinho did nothing. Mourinho’s 4-3-3 went out the window pretty quickly, and he reverted to Mancio’s 4-3-1-2 with Stankovic going from transfer-listed to fundamental player. He also followed in his footsteps by bowing out of the Champion’s League in the round of 16. Lovely. Mancini, Obinna, Maicon (good), and Jimenez are all injured, Adriano is AWOL probably drinking in the favelas.
Predicted lineup: Cesar; Santon, Cordoba, Chivu, Maxwell; Zanetti, Cambiasso, Muntari; Stankovic; Balotelli, Ibrahimovic.

Key players to watch:
Juventus- The Calabrian Cannon. Duh. Have you seen him recently?
Inter- The Only Schnozz Bigger than Chiellini Zlatan recently said if he was a Juventus fan, he would jeer himself, and he’s expecting it. Good. Expect a lot of Zlatan Zingaro chants, and yet another anonymous game.

Key Battles:
The Flops v. Bald Ballwinners: Inter; Ugh. Please Claudio, the derby is not the time to try out Tiago-Poulsen. Muntari and Cambiasso would eat Tiago alive.
World’s #1 v. Dida #2: Push; It’s well known Buffon hasn’t been the same this year, but this game should be all the inspiration. The other guy is pretty damn good, but he’s Brazilian, give it a few years.
Italian Schnozz v. Zingaro Schnozz: Giorgio of the Jungle; Nuff said.
2007-2008 Molinaro v. 2008-2009 Molinaro: Push; I’ll give the kid some credit. He’s upped his game, particularly the defensive part since last season. Could someone teach him to cross a goddamn ball?
Ranieri v. Mourinho: Ranieri; I’m wholly unimpressed with the Arrogant One. After losing in Milan and losing to Hiddink, Ranieri is gonna finally get some Chelski revenge.

Prediction: 2-1 to the good guys. Tiago has yet to score for Juventus, I think he’s the only one in our Starting XI, and it’d be sweet for him to score on his old manager…..but it’s not gonna happen. Iaquinta and the Furia Ceca as a nice retirement present.

C’E UNA STELLA IN CIELO CHE INDICA IL CAMMINO, FORZA JUVE VINCERE E IL TUO DESTINO!!


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  • agiamba
    Yeah, sure, but he's a traitor and I don't want him ever in Turin, unless it's for Del Piero to tear him apart again.

    Notwithstanding the fact he ditched us a week after proclaiming his loyalty, it would send the wrong message to the legends who stayed with the club. After all, why didn't leave, pick up a few liga titles, and come back later?
  • alex
    really? i can understand why a juventus fan would be, but for me fabio is one of the best defenders italy have ever produced
  • agiamba
    Fuck Cannavaro, 1,000x over. If we sign him, I am going to be pissed off.

    And yeah, agreed on Mourinho, Ibra, and Balotelli. Everyone else in Serie A can see what petulant punks they are, of course the Pazza Inter crowd thinks they are just "confident."
  • alex
    http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com...

    what the fuck?! chiellini and fabio cannavaro?!! he would be quality again for you, he will have something to prove. although im fuming that de laurentiis wont sign him for napoli as we need his leadership badly
  • adam
    Johonna what problems could a 18 year old athelete be facing such as Balotelli. Being 18 and getting paid alot of money doing the thing you love and enjoy.

    Atheletes at his age that I can think of are Giovinco, Pato, Marchisio, Messi, Bojan. None of these players were little spolied pricks that think they are bigger than everyone else and none of them cry when someone puts them in their place.
  • adam
    Soft inside? The guy has a heart made of stone, once he realizes he can't get near the Champions League trophy with Inter he will get his ass wipe of an agent to get him out of inter by any means necessary.
  • Johonna
    truly, in my heart of hearts, I love mourinho. He very often says just exactly what I would were I in his place. Balotelli needs to grow up a bt but I take his arrogance as just something that afflicts many professional atheletes - especially when they are 18. Ibra is ... well, Ibra. I love that he has this bad-boy exterior with a squishy-soft center. Plus, I admire his drive.

    so yes, I can honestly say that I love all three.
  • MAD
    "yes but are you truly happy supporting a team brimming with c*nts?"

    Well, you don't seem to mind it.

    "and i only used c*nts because there is a filter or something that wont let me use the proper word which is a staple of the north east vocabulary to describe football teams such as inter"

    There's a filter that won't let you type: "in first place"?

    See You Next Tuesday...
  • Sam
    hahahaAAAAAA
  • adam
    Maybe he's just pissed his kid has a bigger dick than him.
  • adam
    hahaha
  • Antonio
    Haha gotta love MAD, his baby's obviously that ugly that he spends all his time talking shit on here instead of looking after the thing
  • Nnahoj
    http://www.channel4.com/sport/...

    Susy is usually a git, but this is spot on.
  • Sam
    I KNOW THE BEST IDEA, KEEP RANIERI! What is the point in speculating coaches! We improved from last year didnt we, 3rd last season and i'm sure we'll end up 2nd at the end of this season! Ranieri has done a great job, keep him!
  • al
    alex, no conte please. ferrara would be better. he is responsible for juve's nursery and is also lippi's assistant in nazionale.
    oh, he also has lived and breathed juve, kissed champions league throphy and played with maradona.
    what else do you need?
  • alex
    and i only used c*nts because there is a filter or something that wont let me use the proper word which is a staple of the north east vocabulary to describe football teams such as inter
  • alex
    yes but are you truly happy supporting a team brimming with c*nts?
  • MAD
    "Have inter ever made it that far?"

    Yes, but to actually know that, one would have to read about it, so you know... life is tough...

    "and as for inter MAD your team is just plain horrible. mourinho as manager and balotelli/ibrahimovic combo?! can you honestly say you like any of them?!"

    Yes, we are so horrible we sit alone and forlorn in first place. It's such a terrible team... *heavy sigh* I wish we could sit higher in the table but, alas... we will just have to make do with where we are.

    As far as that terrible combo that can't score a goal or win a game or complete a pass, or lace up their boots correctly or run in a straight line - as far as those nobodies go, yes I can.
  • adam
    Alex the problem is that while we should of integrated our younger players into our squad this season, Ranieri saw it fit to play the "old guard" even when he knew the Scudetto was way out of our reach. Since that was the case then players like Giovinco and De Ceglie should of been loaned out for experience, this was a year with absoultely no progress as our so called "future stars" gained absolutely nothing out of this season.
  • alex
    and as for inter MAD your team is just plain horrible. mourinho as manager and balotelli/ibrahimovic combo?! can you honestly say you like any of them?!
  • alex
    you need someone raw to come in and grab this team by the balls. someone who has lived and breathed juventus. i have grown up watching del piero and to a lesser extent nedved, but these players are finished (pavel i still love you). giovinco is the best young player italy has and its a crime he isnt playing
  • adam
    Sorry MAD, much like Inter bending over and taking it up the ass in the Champions Leage group stages and round 16 (what a joke of a team inter was against Manure, even us Juve fans felt sorry for you there).

    Obviously I wouldn't refer to Inter playing in the UCL in April. Have inter ever made it that far?
  • MAD
    "Much like Inter in the Champions League MAD."

    I don't think that we played anyone in the Champions League in April.

    Having trouble reading again? And the calendar is soooo easy, poor thing...

    :)
  • MAD
    "Two months later than last season, that’s an improvement."

    Actually that is true, considering that Juve wasn't even in a title race last season...
  • Alessandro
    haha juve piece of shit team. cant win without cheating.
  • adam
    I agree no to Conte, I don't think we will be serious contenders for atleast the next 2 years. Too many players need to leave and too many players need to join. It just wont appen in one mercato.

    I guess it's gonna be Ranieri next season and then Gasperini/Lippi the following.
  • adam
    Much like Inter in the Champions League MAD.
  • agiamba
    Yes, Juve cared so much they rolled over for everyone in April during a title race.

    Two months later than last season, that's an improvement.

    Conte is too raw for Juventus.
  • alex
    "just read ranieri post match comments.
    full of praise for inter and no disappointment. he does not deserve to be sitting in juve bench."

    al your absolutely spot on. what other juve manager would say anything positive about a draw at home to inter?!! madness. what you need next season is antonio conte. he would be your pep guardiola and giovinco would be your messi. ranieri is just not a winner and secco is a complete idiot
  • MAD
    "good to know they cared about this match and never gave up."

    Yes, Juve cared so much they rolled over for everyone in April during a title race.

    :)
  • Armando
    Then again, i'm still pleased with the result, as only 1 of our normal starting midfielders started (Nedved), while the other 3 werent available, Amauri was available but probably not in any condition to play, and Trez and Giovinco didnt get nearly enough time. Plus Inter are a bunch of divers, and we're getting alot of absurd, biased decision going their way. With all this taken into account, i'm pleased with the 1-1 draw, though if we won it wouldve been awesome.
  • Armando
    I missed Camo. Marchionni had two beautiful chances on goal where he couldve chipped it over Cesar, but instead he just ran straight into him. Camo wouldve put those in the back of the net. Tiago definitely deserved a yellow, but i disagree with a straight red, especially when Balotelli is basically disrespecting Juventus with his stupid antics. Inter really put on a diving clinic today, and Juve were punished for it by the biased refs. And people dare to say Juve is a cheater? Look at Inter.
  • al
    just read ranieri post match comments.
    full of praise for inter and no disappointment. he does not deserve to be sitting in juve bench.
  • intercheats
    If Moratti wanted to shoot balls into the opponent's goal from his box seats using an air cannon, the refs would allow it.
  • adam
    I think our team did well with the players we had, good to know they cared about this match and never gave up.

    Inter's goal should of been avoided, Del Piero and De Ceglie were the only two defending. Unacceptable.
  • Pablo
    We didn't do bad in the first half, but during the second one (when everyone was tired after the pressing of the 1st half) Ranieri should have done some changes way before. I don't think Trez for Marchionni was a good substitution. Trezeguet didn't touch the ball in the whole game (not at least in the crappy TV I had to watch the game) and that was not his fault, there was noone to assist him. And you can't play against Inter throwing long balls from our side of the field. But on the other hand, besides Giovinco, there wasn't much to do, that's how we play and that was just the wrong way to affront the game.
  • in the end tiago's attacks were absolutely ridiculous though i am glad we we came back to draw with 10 men. i'll take that result.

    i noticed that too Nnahoj. i was surprised it happened so many times.


    buffon was pretty solid. good saves.
  • Nnahoj
    Only with Inter.
  • agiamba
    That pissed me off, Del Piero should have known he was only getting 8 too. Not to mention they were charging down free kicks, which is a yellow.

    Buffon was in great form, but 2001-2008 Buffon would have come out flying for that goal.
  • Dave
    its the refs fault as always
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