Juventus 1 – Fiorentina 1: Opponents, Please Do Not Read.

By: roberto | November 29th, 2010
   

After having digested the match against Fiorentina, and viewing the large number of insightful comments that were made thereafter, a couple issues standout that warrants their highlight for the future. Plus photos from Saturday’s game.

From the start of the match, our movement going forward ran into some difficulty with Viola’s numerical advantage in midfield. Mihajlovic’s men clogged our passing lanes and made it much harder for us to move the ball around then we were used to.

“The away side were doing a decent job in shutting Juve down in midfield – Alberto Aquilani was pressed and Fiorentina forced him to play simple balls from side to side, rather than ambitious forward passes.” ZonalMarking.net

Aquilani aside, that lack of enough creativity or world-class quality has been a problem for us ever since farsopoli. But that’s for another post. To make matters worse, when we were able to play balls forward in the first half to find Quagliarella and Milos Krasic, we left them without support and double-teamed.

The second issue that’s perhaps nothing more than just an athlete’s desire to play, but nonetheless deserves some mention. Fast forward to the sixtieth minute where Del Neri subbed off Del Piero. I couldn’t quite make out what he muttered underneath his breathe as he saw his number in lights on the sideline official’s board, but it couldn’t have been sweet.

Selfish little thirty-six year old eh? But I don’t blame him really, in the heat of the moment there’s no way he’d be able to think properly. He’s a champion by every stretch of the imagination, but it’s quite clear that given our game against Lech Poznan on Wednesday, Del Neri had no other choice but to make sure his only two healthy/eligible forwards weren’t drained ahead of it.

Lastly but certainly not least, it’s time Felipe Melo took Marco Motta’s hand and go have a heart-to-heart with Beppe and Del Neri. The kind of sit down that can turn their form around before matters get worse. You bring the marshmallows, I’ll bring the chocolate, and Del Piero can bring the graham crackers.

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  • Preview's up for tomorrow's game in Poland.

    http://juventus.theoffside.com...

  • Giuseppe Narducci was one of the prosecuting attorneys in the original Calciopoli trial. As quite a few others (e.g Guido Rossi) who played their part in trying to kill Juve in the summer of '06, he has also been heavily accused of being as far from a neutral as possible, being part of a huge conflict of interests (he's an inter fan, it's a known fact) while serving as an attorney in the original trial and the prototype of 'anti-Juve honesty' that we have all come to know the last few years emanating from individuals such as Rossi, Provera, Cipriani etc etc.

    Here he is just a few months ago having a stupendous time with Javier Zanetti, talking about the tragedy of the Desaparecidos of 1978:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    And here he is at Zdenek Zeman's newly published book presentation just a couple of days ago. Yes, the same Zdenek Zeman who has been trying to throw dirt on Juve, Moggi and the Agnellis for almost two decades now:

    http://napoli.repubblica.it/sp...

    Let me guess, all of this shit is merely coincidental and I'm a conspiracy theory-loving idiot, right?

  • Rdj8

    ok, I have some questions:

    why cant Quags and aquilani play in europa league?

    and I heard that there will be a serie A strike, whats that? lol

  • Rinaldo2882

    If I'm not mistaken, Aquilani and Quags played for Napoli and Liverpool, respectively, in this season's Europa League (qualifying rounds).

  • Rdj8

    I get it now! thanks! but does that mean that they will be able to play for the knockouts?

  • W

    no, they're cup-tied for the rest of the season

  • Sporontinno

    One question I ask myself every juve game is, What about Lanzafame?
    did we get him to be a sub? , is he a flop?, do we have to wait for
    him to shine? , he can't compete for his position? etc, honestly what's the deal??

  • Robee

    I guess Adam is correct when he said Delneri was supposed to play 2 wingers, but when the Aquilani occassion presented itself, it was too beautiful too refuse. Aquilani however makes it very difficult for us to play with two out-and-out wingers and since Krasic is nearly untouchable, that leaves Lanza no space.

    Maybe when our defence is a finished product we will be able to integrate 2 wingers, but for now defensive stability is the major concern of Delneri.

  • GDN's interview tidbits:

    -Melo will rest, probably on bench.
    -ADP and Iaquinta up front.
    -Camilleri to play at CB.
    -'Juve will be in this country for the first time after that terrible accident(Scirea's passing away while on a scouting mission in Poland on September 3rd '89) and we are going to do everything possible to try to honor Gaetano, a great champion and a great man who has given a lot to football.'

    Great words in regards to Scirea, I'm excited to see Camilleri in action.

  • Clearly shows that GDN is prioritirizing Serie A over EL. Fine by me I guess.

  • According to the latest insider scoop, Amauri has been training seriously to recover asap, in order to fulfill his pre-season promise of 'at least 20 goals'. He has gone so far to even cut his hair a whole 2 inches:

    http://i51.tinypic.com/a2ut8p.jpg

  • http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...

    Sure thing bro.

    It's a well-known fact that there have been racist chants against Seedorf from the Juve curvas EVERY TIME Juve-Milan have played the last 5+ years. Gaby Mudingayi and Stefano Okaka have also had to endure racist chants when facing us. The reason why Khouma Babacar went out early on Saturday was not due to picking up a knock no, it was due to the constant racist chants by the Juve fans. Momo Sissoko's transfer to Juventus from Liverpool was seriously in question when Momo learned from former Juventus midfielder Stephen Appiah that although playing for a club like Juve was a great experience, having to face thousands of racist screams on a weekly basis from your own fans made it impossible to think of Juventus as a long-term destination. The reason why Felipe Melo was heavily booed by his own fans last season had nothing to do with his poor performances that did his considerable transfer fee no justice, it was actually due to him not being of pure Aryan descent.

    It is obvious that when rival Serie A fans have chanted 'Se Saltelli Muore Lucarelli' at Cristiano Lucarelli, it has been of racist intentions.

    -In all seriousness, The Sun is up to par with Tuttosport in terms of journalistic credibility. I want to see everyone at Olimpico chant only 'Se Saltelli Muore Balotelli!' for 90 minutes straight.

  • Sampath

    seriously does anything happen to these cunts? Do they get banned, fined, booted from the stadium? That sort of shit used to happen here in Australian sport a very long time ago and when action was taken, that sort of shit does not continue

  • If it were up to me, anyone dumb enough to do that type of shit inside of a stadium (racist and violent behavior) where there are children trying to watch a game with their parents etc should:

    -get escorted out immediately (roughed up a bit if necessary),
    -get hit with a nice fine (500-1000 Euros),
    -get banned for life from any type of sporting event in the EU,
    -have to register as a life-long offender (similar to how one has to register as a sex offender in the U.S after being found guilty).

    It all may sound ridiculous (especially the last punishment) and way too tedious for a country as bureaucratic as Italy but I'd bet money on the fact that it would reduce in-stadium idiocies to 0. No matter how stupid, careless and invincible people might act when part of big crowds, when as much as an entire month's current wages and their future chances of finding a job, getting a loan etc can be compromised by a few words/actions, they'll think twice about acting like inbreds.

  • Andy

    How about requiring people who make stupid posts on the internet to register as lifelong offenders?

  • Andy

    There needs to be an "unlike" option for posts. Your proposal is fucking insane.

  • Of course lol, hence why I stated that it may sound too ridiculous and awfully long/tedious to ever even come into consideration. The last punishment would be geared towards the more serious, violent offenses.

    Too drastic? Sure but we are still talking about the same country in which Piaggios have been thrown from one floor of the stadium to the next, law enforcement officers have sustained serious injuries/death while fighting ultras in or just outside stadiums etc etc.

  • W

    you need to make a distinction between violent behavior and non-violent racist chants. People who do not engage in violence but make racist remarks should not be subject to anything other than ejection from the stadium and a possible local ban. And a sex-offender type registration is a huge overreaction even for stadium violence.

  • Peaceful method: Having everyone else in the stadium chant things like "There's no such thing as a racist Italian."

    Violent method: Just let Balotelli loose in the stands, carte blanche. You know he wants to, and I'm pretty sure he could take on a goodly number on his own. Then he wipes his hands, comes back down, and finishes the rest of the match. It's like double the entertainment. :)

  • Sampath

    couldn't agree more, this sort of shit pisses me off. Seeing players like Khouma Babacar having to face that sort of shit while trying to make a name for themselves just makes me goddamn angry

  • In which match were there chants against Babacar (who has awesome potential IMO)?

    I haven't read anything of that sort about him before, maybe I missed it?

  • guys, i just saw a site that totally copies every post from the juve offside. I was like WTF!

  • I will have our team of lawyers crush them into a pulp.

  • Somnath_Sengupta

    Someone posted a link to a site like this before also..is it the same site ?

  • Lega Calcio and AIC(Italian Players Association) were not able to reach an agreement in their latest meeting in regards to the new contracts.

    The 16th week of Serie A will not be played as the players are going on a strike.

    No Juve-Lazio then I guess. This means that we are going to have more than a week to prepare for the City game at home.

    Anybody still want to argue 'let's exit out of the E.L!!!' now lol?

  • Sampath

    These cold conditions will really take a lot out of Marchisio, Krasic, Iaquinta and other first team players, meaning Aquilani, Quags, Grosso etc really have to step it up on the weekend.

  • hant00

    add Pepe to your latter list, or preferably Lanzafamme since Pepe will most likely be press-gang'd into RB in Poland, because Marchisio will be unavailable on weekend (yellow accumulation)

  • ShakeAppeal

    Hmmm, apparently Dzeko has been learning Italian. :D

  • I don't see how Dzeko is going to come to Juve. I think Wolfs take the highest bidder regardless of the Diego deal. I also don't think he'll flop in the Serie A. Bundas is too soft and the defense is not as tight as Serie A. Rather spend the money else where in Italy.

  • Hmmm, apparently Dzeko has been learning Italian, read Tuttosport today.

    Fixed that for ya lol.

  • agiamba

    Yeah, he came out and said he's not...has just learned some words from Diego, Kjaer, and Barzagli.

  • "How do I say, 'Show me the money, Beppe?' in Italian, Diego?"

  • Nice wrap-up, Roberto.

    I don't know if Motta is within reach, though. When otherwise mellow guys such as Aquilani start to scream at your poor positioning skills, you must be really, really bad. And that's the case with Motta. Maybe he could be a decent RM somewhere. Just not in Turin (well, for Torino maybe - hey, there's a thought!)...

  • JIJI_PL

    I read today transfer rumours and some things around us bother me.
    1.Huntelaar - i don't like this idea at all. This guy has proved his inability to plaay in Italy. He is more inconsistent than many other, so he is fine in germany and let leave hi there, MAROTTA!
    2.Matri - This one is someone i like a lot. The guy is young, strong physicaly and score decent ammount of goals. Italian BTW. he can solve our problems seriously upfront and apart of all this donadoni words HE IS STAYING i do believe we can take him in january but not cheap. 15 mln IMO. Good option for us!
    3.LECH game - i know you will think i'm crazy, but i want us out of this competition. We are not ready yet to be consistent in the league what left for us to be in another tournament by the same time. thi can cause us some difficulties in midseason. We don't have a players ready to do it. Major mistake from GDN to leave Brazzo and Grosso out of the group(doesn't matter their denials).We need them more than before. In general, the team will have time to prepare more than enough and take a better results.All players are available so let be focus in Seria A.Next year will be ready IMO. Having in mind the weather which expect us there we can make the things worse after this game with more injuries.
    4.Barca - real - i watch Benzema there carefully but i do believe we don't need him at all.why do we cry some much about him i don't know (he can be decent option available in january bu...). Mediocre and slow - we need speed upfront as Barca showed real yesterday, so we need mobile bomber upfront nor the heaviest prima punta nowadays :)
    5. Grygera - he is coming from injury which is good new but let keep him healthy to be starter in the league not EL. we do have more problems in this positions so let be smart in Poland.
    In general, January is knocking on the door but i think we must be very carefull in transfers. As somebody (ROBE) wrote somewhere missing good finisher is make us worse than having poor fullbacks. I agree if we score a lot often we will skip difficulties on the back and compete for CL spot easily. so. MAROTTA be smart and make some magic and take young and classy bomber.
    MATRI AND PAZZINI ARE MY FAVOURITE.

  • Somnath_Sengupta

    You are not crazy, I want us out of EL too. EL is an extremely long competition & the match timings are on thursday which will make the players more tired for the league matches.

    EL offers very little money still. Last season reaching KO rounds of UCL was equilvalent of winning EL in terms of prize money. Platini has increased the prize money from this season but it's still not enough to miss out on UCL spot (do we need to finish 3rd for it bdw? Bliga can get 4th UCL spot).

    We have won enough UEFA Cups when the tournament mattered, we can leave it now.

  • Rinaldo2882

    4th place means CL qualification rounds. The Bundesliga will in all probability get the 4th CL spot for NEXT season.

    Kinda funny that many Serie A fans were happy with Inter winning the CL because it meant we retained our 4th CL spot. However, it seems like Inter might have only done themselves a favor, as they currently languish in 5th place.

  • Adam Digby will massacre you for saying this lol. I agree with you on all points though :D
    The only good thing about the EL is that its a great opportunity to blood youngsters.

  • Somnath_Sengupta

    Sorry in advance then, Adam :)

  • AZAP

    yes we need matri, he is the only nviable option for juventus at this present moment hes great in the air, good with the ball and he knows how to make runs off the ball in behind the defence. QUITE CLEARLY he is the best option as he is the cheapest yet is performing well on a consistent basis ith a mid table team, hope this happens come january if not june. FORZA JUVE

  • Blanda_Amania

    Thanks, Roberto, for your thoughts on the match. Yes. It's time for a "Come to Jesus" talk for Motta. Still young enough to turn it around.

    I wonder at what moment this photo was taken. Hmmmm?

    http://30.media.tumblr.com/tum...

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