Internationals: Where are our Juventini?

By: agiamba | June 12th, 2009
   

A brief resume of the goings-on of our various international players.

World Cup Qualifying:

Sure it’s already over for the summer, but I’ll recap some of our player’s national sides.

Italy: I won’t go one-by-one since you all are probably familiar, but Italy is looking good to make it to South Africa, again. In one horribly large run-on sentence: Buffon is still god, Chiellini is officially a starter, Cannavaro is still average, Legrottaglie is on the bench, Camoranesi called up when not injured, Iaquinta is pushing for a starting role, Del Piero is plotting to sink Lippi’s boat, Marchisio, Giovinco, and De Ceglie have been left to the U-21 Euros, and Amauri is still sitting around watching the mailbox for his passport.

Sweden: (Note: Sweden needs a blogger.) It’s not going well for Olof Mellberg and co, who are tied with CRTBA (shamelessly ripped from Chris) and Portugal at 9 points, 4 behind the playoff spot and 7 behind group leaders Denmark. Mellberg has been starting every game, and with 2 goals conceded in 5 games, it appears their problems aren’t in defense as much as their anemic offense, which before the Malta 4-0 drubbing, had failed to score in 3 out of 4 of the qualifying games. Sounds like some big Swede is choking…
Portugal: In the same group as Poulsen and Mellberg, Tiago earned a recall to the national team after several years, coming off some good performances for Juventus. He played in the friendly drubbing against Brazil, and then in the qualifying match against Sweden where he had an average and unremarkable game before being subbed at 62 minutes. Even if Portugal makes it to South Africa, don’t expect Tiago to be part of the team.

Denmark: On the other hand, it is going wonderfully for Christian Poulsen and his fellow Danes in their group. With Portugal and Sweden, few expected Denmark to make it to the World Cup but they sit 3 points above 2nd-placed Hungary. Poulsen has started every qualifying game, and the Danes have been winning impressively: In 6 games, 5 clean sheets, and 13 goals scored. Poulsen has grabbed two of those, 1 against Albania and a crucial late 89th minute goal against Portugal that tied the game before Jensen scored a stoppage-time goal to win it 3-2 for Denmark and put them solidly in place for qualifying. Why can’t Poulsen bring his Denmark form to Juve!
France: For the first time in God knows how long, we have no players in the French national team. Seriously, I can’t think of the last time this was true, probably pre-1996.
Czech Republic: Grygera has been starting most games, though qualifying is not going smoothly. The team is in 4th, 2 points behind Poland. The team has been doing mediocre, with a relatively impotent offense and a defense that has been letting them through in big games. (2 against Poland, 2 against Slovakia) Qualification looks like it’s going to be a tough one, which is sad for a team that has some great talent. Maybe a certain Czech Fury could help.
Austria:(Also needs a new blogger) Austria is in 4th place, tied with Romania, and like the Czechs and Swedes, a very longshot from making it to South Africa. Manninger has been starting most games, and the team has allowed 9 in 6 games, though by all remarks Manninger is playing quite well.
Bosnia and Herzegovina: Alright, Brazzo retired from the team but I was stunned to look up that they are in 2nd behind Spain, ahead of Turkey and Belgium.


Haha, go home Ibra!

Mali: Mali’s world-cup qualifying doubles as qualification to the 2010 African Cup of Nations, so in each group of 4, the top team goes to South Africa, and the top 3 go to the African Cup. Mali is in 4th after two games played, with 1 point. There’s plenty of games left, but obviously a poor start for Sissoko and co. Sissoko played in one of the games, the other he was out with injury, and played well. Other notables playing for Mali are Kanoute of Sevilla, and recent-treble winner Seydou Keita of Barcelona, who is Sissoko’s cousin.
Brazil: In Conmebol’s crazy free-for-all, every-one-in-one-group qualification, Brazil sits at the top, though it hasn’t been entirely smooth with goalless draws and a loss to Paraguay. Diego has been not called up, sat on the bench, missed out on the bench, and has started. Maybe a Brazil fan can enlighten me on what that means.

Confederation’s Cup:
Brazil: I think we can officially declare that Dunga doesn’t have a problem with Amauri, he has a problem with Juventus, which would make sense given his Viola past. Maybe it’s because we’ve never really had a large jungle-contingent unlike our less-illustrious compatriots Inter, Milan, Roma, etc, and instead preferred to develop Italian talent. Amauri has cooled off, which is a great reason for Dunga to ignore him in favor of superstars like Luis Fabiano (a total of 8 goals this season, in a goal-happy league) and Nilmar, who is an international scrub still. But now he’s ignored Diego who has picked up an impressive 33 caps (at age 24) having debuted for the Selecao at age 18. Unless Diego’s injured, I don’t see why he’d call up flops like Julio Baptista instead. Sure, Bremen was disappointing in the league but Diego was crucial in their two very strong cup runs, in the Uefa Cup and the German Cup. We’re happy to keep our two Italian-Brazilians at home anyways.

USA:
Giuseppe Rossi (Yes I know he’s not a Juventino, but I couldn’t resist)

Italy: Let me take this moment to point out Juventus has 6, yes, 6 Italian internationals deservedly going to the Confederation’s Cup. Milan has 3, and Roma and Inter both have 1, two less than Fiorentina, and the same amount as teams like Sampdoria, Udinese, and Napoli. Viola fans, nice work. Everyone else, play some more quality Italians.

Gianluigi Buffon- He’s superman. ‘Nuff said.
Giorgio Chiellini- The future captain of Italy and Juventus, Chiellini will put some much needed pace, grit, and steel into a iffy backline.
Nicola Legrottaglie- Deservedly called up to his first international tournament, capping a wonderful return to form over the last two years. He’ll probably get some playing time, though I would expect him to play second fiddle to Cannavaro, reports today suggest Lippi may keep the Legro-Chiellini partnership intact. Wonderful if true, but Fabio’s gotta have small injuries for that to happen. Stupid as it may be, as long as he’s Italy’s captain, he will be playing. Edit: Indeed, he has a right-calf problem.
Fabio Cannamerda- It’d be nice if Chiellini could do the Nazionale and Juventus a big favor and repeat last summer’s heroics.
Mauro Camoranesi- Is Mauro in shape? Yes. Is Mauro healthy? Yes. Then he’ll likely play. Can he remain healthy for two weeks? That’s the question, Jimmy.
Vincenzo Iaquinta- Without a doubt the most in-form striker in Italy at the moment, Iaquinta saved our skin the other night, after a Gilardino brace, he completed one of his own to help Italy to defeat the mighty New Zealanders, 4-3. In January his place at this tournament wasn’t assured, much less his spot at Juventus. In March, it looked like he’d play like he did in Germany, from the bench. Now, I think Lippi has to give him a starting shirt.


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  • dave
    I hope he stays too
  • adam
    Sam, its an outright sale not co-ownership to Napoli for 4-5 million.

    The worst part is that since we are getting rid of him wouldn't it make more sense to give him to Udinese for D'Agostino or possibly even Motta?
  • Sam
    Giving De Ceglie away on a co-ownership deal for a while i reackon is okay. Especially with him not being a good left back, and Molinaro and hopefully Criscto ahead of him in the peckin order. Molinaro in my opinion is a better left back than De Ceglie. And if de Ceglie cant play Left back next season where is he gonna play? Seeing as though no wingers will be used next season! But we should definatly keep him if we end up not not getting a left back this summer.
  • Oliviero
    oh lord, it seems that secco is going to sell De Ceglie and keep molinaro...
    links below

    http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/...
    http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/...
  • I didn't watch the 2nd half but that doesn't surprise me about De Ceglie, if he did have a good game. He's really a fullback or winger, and relies on his pace and as you said, open space. In a 3-man midfield, he needs to play centrally.
  • Pablo
    In my opinion, Giovinco wasn't that bad, but he had no-one to play with, so everytime he got the ball 2 or 3 serbian players (twice as high, so we could say 4-6 serbian giovincos) went for him.

    Marchisio played well, but mostly defensively. Didn't do much to organize the game or create a goal opportunity.

    De Ceglie was pretty bad. He was even frustrating. I still believe he should play as a fullback, cuz if he does not have an open space to run with the ball, he will probably lose it. He is a potent player, but not too skillful.

    Criscito: He played well, but didn't get a chance to deliver a good cross.

    Some of the rest: I didn't like Cigarini either. Just ok defensively, pretty bad ofensively.

    Ballotelli: He is a good player who could become a really good player, but he needs to change his environment. Too selfish and most of the time ruined the slightest occasion we might have had. He also got a yellow card for a childish reaction. Disappointing really, and it's a shame cuz he has the potential.

    Motta: Very good, specially his attitude.

    Both central backs: Solid performance. A few mistakes, but they were pretty good.

    Aquafresca: Didn't get a clear ball trough the whole game. Not his fault I think.
  • alex
    im hoping that bocchetti joins napoli at some point he said he wants to but wants to spend at least another season at genoa. seems like the tough defender napolis back 4 needs. he sort of reminds me of a neapolitan chiellini of sorts but shorter and not as agressive!

    what about andreolli? i remember a couple of seasons ago he was touted a the next big thing?
  • adam
    http://www.channel4.com/sport/...

    Funny, where were these guys when Senna "the spanish trick" was dominating the midfield during the Euros. He lived all his life in brazil before joining Villareal in 2002, thats 26 years of his life, while Rossi is blasted cause he lived 14 years of his live in the states.
  • adam
    Bocchetti had very good positioning but he still needs to learn how to take the ball cleanly. He's definately one for the future.
  • adam
    Cigarini was good in the beggining but was nothing special today. The defense was pretty solid motta and criscito were ontop of their game. Other than that marchisio was the only one that stood out.

    Giovinco had alot of the ball but was taken away from him too easily. Balotelli had one good shot but that was it and Aquafresca was pretty annonymous.
  • alex
    ive missed a good chunk of the match, but did see marchisio butcher a couple of players. hows cigarini played? bocchetti looks solid from what ive seen as well
  • adam
    Giovinco is having a pretty bad game.
  • adam
    Motta is a fucking beast, he's good enough to start for any team in Serie A. Im praying that if we do give Udinese De Ceglie it will be for Motta and not D'Agostino.
  • alex
    marchisio is fucking quality
  • dave
    I hope he stays too
  • agiamba
    De Ceglie? I dunno, man. I hope he stays, he's got plenty of potential.

    Calciomercato, the Gazzetta, and TuttomercatoWeb, my favorite sources are all reporting that Napoli will be signing him on co-ownership for 4.5million euros, in an effort to solve their left-flank issues. I'm ok with letting De Ceglie go for a bit, but only if we bring back someone useful. Like Criscito. Not Dossena, and not Grosso.
  • Calisi
    Yeah here is the lineup..

    ————Consigli————–
    Motta-Andreollo-Bocchetti-Criscito
    Marchisio—-cigarini—-De Ceglie
    —Balotelli———–Giovinco—
    ———–Acquafresca————
  • alex
    http://www.tuttonapoli.net/?ac...

    this man seems to think so.

    the under 21 team looks better than the senior team apart from a couple of players like buffon and chielli. grosso ws absolutely shite as well
  • adam
    Speaking of De Ceglie, what do you know about him going to Napoli Alessio? Is it the ususal bullshit or is there some truth to it?
  • agiamba
    Just like everyone to know, after 5 Juventini started last night in Italy-USA, 4 are starting in the U-21 team against Serbia; Marchisio, De Ceglie, Giovinco, and Criscito.
  • DonMichele
    Weston...If your just going to do some selective reading of my posts, dont bother replying. Players like Rossi or Camo, I'm not criticising their spot on the Azzurri, but getting the armband is a different matter.
  • Kasia
    We're also being linked with Drenthe. Maybe since Real have to get rid of some players, they're just being linked with random clubs?
  • Armando
    I have no idea why we would possibly be linked with Diarra. We already have Sissoko, and Marchisio and Zanetti have good defensive skills as well. There's just no point.
  • dave
    Apparently, Juve now being linked with Diarra from Real Madrid...
  • Sam
    overrated? wtf! The kid is already underrated.
  • alex w
    methinks this will be the tournament that makes rossi grossly overrated. already seeing rumors that you guys are after him...
  • Calisi
    I thought both keepers had a little trouble with the long range balls, and besides it being wet out adidas is changing the ball every 3 seconds which seems to add the curvy, dropping movement etc. I thought both made it off their line very well when needed, but it was difficult to catch.
  • agiamba
    I thought all our boys played relatively well today...we had 5 in the starting lineup which is always something to proud of. My thoughts on their performances.

    Buffon: Strangely took "due tempi" (what's the best translation in English? Two attempts?) to collect several long range balls, but looked fine otherwise.
    Chiellini: Looked great other than conceding a penalty.
    Legrottaglie: Not as great as Chiellini, though he rarely looked troubled... but he didn't concede a penalty, so about even. Had some good chances at the other end.
    Camoranesi: As I predicted, flashes of brilliance but went missing. At the top in a 4-3-3 is not best for him, but he looked better when given liberty to wander a bit.
    Iaquinta- Worked hard but was slipping a lot, surprised he didn't change the studs or anything. A little too selfless in front of goal in deference to Gilardino.

    Cannavaro- Warmed the bench...as I hope he will do for Juve for the next year.
  • Kasia
    It's hilarious that the ones to score against the USA were De Rossi & Rossi.

    Damn those African mosquitos.

    And damn the Polish commentator for calling Legrottaglie 'Quagliatella' (was he thinking about Quagliarella or what?). I admit it was only during a few minutes, but still..
  • I completely agree. He'll end up at Roma or Madrid now.

    Donmichele should know we were saved by somebody not born in italy.
  • alex
    i cant believe how bad the horns actually are! they will definitely be banned for the world cup. its a shame you didnt just buy g.rossi instead of diego, giovinco playing behind him and iaquinta could of been beautiful
  • sissoko man love
    Hahaha the games over but the sound of horns lives on in my head. USA played well at least : /
  • adam
    Luca Toni has been the USA's best defender so far.
  • jim
    USA 1-0
  • alex
    the horns have to be the worst idea for a match ever. its actually putting me off watching the game. that and italy playing absolutely shit
  • adam
    These damn african horns are really annoying me!
  • I was more getting at order of time, not rank. When canna and alex retire it would go to Buffon; camoranesi has more experience and caps than ddr, i just hope we never get to a game where we are forced to play without all the people ahead of them in order for a couple more years. I suppose the real battle would between DDR and chiellini, they will more than likely be captain and cocaptain when Buffon is gone.
  • DonMichele
    Again, Camo may belong on the Azzurri, but that doesn't necessarily make him a born leader, does it? Your kinda missing the point. He never was in contention to get the armband, and never will. I dont think Lippi would even consider it. If you rate his chances of being captain ahead of De Rossi, your delusional.
  • Well what constitutes being Italian enough? Do you have to be born in italy to be Italian? If he is good enough to play on the team, and good enough to help us win a world title, than he is good enough to be captain if the time comes along.
  • agiamba
    His agent is wrong, Sam. Genoa only has the option to sign Criscito on co-ownership for 7.5million euros.
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