Ferrara searches for Fullbacks

By: agiamba | August 26th, 2009
   

There has been several refreshing changes under Ferrara’s regime, there were many times under Ranieri’s reign in which he would never do things that everyone called for, such as switching player positions, or players’ status within the team. Starters more or less stayed the same, reserves stayed reserves, etc, with notable exceptions to the strikers. For me, one of the changes that caught my eye was Caceres being fielded as a right-back, as far as I know he made his reputation at center-back and that substitution is one we would have cried out for under Ranieri but he would have never made.

The second which surprised me a bit, was not only starting Brazzo at left-back this weekend, where he performed admirably, but subbing De Ceglie over Molinaro on at half-time when Salihamidzic came off with an injury. Molinaro’s position at left-back has been more or less secure over the last two seasons, although I would argue it is as much to Ranieri’s preference for him as much as De Ceglie’s injuries. Had PDC been able to remain uninjured for a few months on end, he could have given him competition. I was one of Molinaro’s biggest critics in 2007-2008, though last season he sort of changed my mind. He is a decent fullback, defensively sound but offensively contributes little. Is he ideal? Certainly not, but he can manage for the time being.

Over the last week, reports have been swirling that Ferrara is indeed not satisfied with the fullbacks at his disposal. This summer it appeared he was unimpressed with De Ceglie and would push him to Napoli, their interest cooled off after his injury at the U-21 euros, or De Ceglie managed to convince Ferrara of his worth. (Given his sub over Molinaro against Chievo, possibly both) Zebina may be injured for a few months, who managed to slowly work himself back in the squad, and it seems pretty apparent that Grygera is not highly appraised by Ciro. Caceres performed well at right-back in preseason, but he seems more of a defensive right-back like Mellberg than an attacking one, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Cobolli Gigli’s comments yesterday that Juve was still considering making moves in the mercato confirms the above suspicion that Ferrara would like changes. Grosso has been re-linked back to Juve after not playing in the Europa League qualifiers for Lyon in effort to not be cup-tied, supposedly Juve wants to pay 1million euro whereas Lyon are looking for about 2.5million. Grosso would be a decent signing, he has never really done it at the highest level for club, but Inter he was only there for a season, and French football is a wacky thing in its own way. At Palermo, well, he made his way into the Nazionale. He’s aging, but I think at the club level it will be less exposed than for the Nazionale where matches are individually played at a higher intensity. A decent signing, but I am not terribly concerned with our left-back position.

The other player heavily linked is Brazilian right-back Rafinha, of Schalke for a fee of about 8million euro. As with Diego, I cannot speak personally about him as my knowledge of the Bundesliga is, well, whatever close to zero would be. You all know well about my disdain for South American footballers, but I would be satisfied with this signing.

Simply put, he passes all of my desired checks for a fullback. Is he young? Yes. Is he experienced? Yes. Is he offensively potent as well as defensively sound? According to reports on him, he is a good attacker, whereas his defense could still be refined a bit. We’ll say yes. Is he relatively cheap? Given his age, his experience, and the club he’s coming from, I would say 8mil is a very fair price. With De Silvestri definitively off the market, Juve may decide to go for one of these fullbacks, or given Grosso’s price, perhaps both.

BUT- Should they arrive, we certainly need to offload some fullbacks. We already have 3 per flank- Molinaro, De Ceglie, Brazzo, and Zebina, Grygera, and Caceres. First on my chopping block would be Zebina. Ignoring my personal disdain for him for a moment, Zebina is particularly injury-plagued, has the highest salary of the fullbacks, is old, and I don’t think that much of an improvement over the others. Molinaro and Grygera are competent reserves, should Ferrara choose to do so, with a mid-range salary, dedication, and young enough that they can serve us well for a while. Brazzo’s contract expires next summer, and I have no idea if the team has any inclination to renew it, I would imagine not. Should either of them arrive, I would imagine Ariaudo would go out on loan, because Caceres is perfectly capable at center-back. Should a right-back arrive, I think he would be shifted in position.

Am I thrilled with our current group of fullbacks? No, but a team is never as perfect as you want it. I think they are “good enough,” but should the management choose to go into the mercato, I would certainly have no complaints.


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  • PaulPuzzo
    According to goal.com, Secco confirmed that they won't sign anyone for the right flank (inc. Rafinha). He added that Rafinha is an EU player and Juventus could not sign anymore EU player this season. So I guess, there will be no Rafinha in Juventus this season.
  • alessio we could have offered you nelson rivas lol :)
  • Post up about the CL.
  • georg
    nice draw! u never have easy games in cl but juve must survive this group,...looking forward how barca trash inter and huntelaar scoring a hattrick vs real:)
  • Pablo
    Ok, our group is pretty accessible (on the paper at least). So maybe we can win it again this season.
  • al
    what about kyiv guys? doesnt seem good for inter, does it?
  • I believe so, Pablo. Tough group thus far, but that's good as far as I'm concerned.
  • Tough draw for Didier Deschamps, Real Madrid and Milan.
  • Pablo
    So Bordeaux now... Is Blanc still coaching them?
  • Balzaretti and Cassani would be my ideal fullbacks, ironic that at one point we owned both of them. But for obvious reasons (they would not be cheap) it's a no go.
  • Pablo
    Bayern is one of the best we could have got. They are doing pretty bad in bundesliga so far, so at least they probably wont have momentum. And given we already have a german team on our group we cant get Stuttgart of Wolfsburg.
  • al
    interesting, zlatan vs inter. kaka vs ac milan.
  • al
    we are with bayern munich
  • al
    inter in a group with barcelona!
  • so, wait weve got dossena now too?
  • zaki
    hmmmm, maybe. i won't be surprised if rafinha's deal won't happened, but maybe we can still hope for miracle.i heard also secco's statement. it could be either he is really don't want sign rafinha, or maybe he plays old moggi trick.

    amauri probably gonna be italian this week, leaving a single non-EU space for rafinha

    "Meanwhile, the Brazilian-born hitman could soon potentially suit up for the Italian national team, as he claims his passport is due to arrive in the near future.

    "It's coming, I hope to have it this week," he explained. "This is the last document needed to finish the bureaucratic process to obtain my Italian passport."

    the mercato closes at monday, so yeah !! there still a chance, even if it's small.
  • PaulPuzzo
    According to goal.com, Secco confirmed that they won't sign anyone for the right flank (inc. Rafinha). He added that Rafinha is an EU player and Juventus could not sign anymore EU player this season. So I guess, there will be no Rafinha in Juventus this season.
  • Daniel
    Nnahoj, there is a Juventude in brasil, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Rafinha whatsoever. Juventus means youth (right?), and so does Juventude in portuguese. I think every country has a team whose name mean youth ^^.
  • HolyMann
    Rafinha isnt coming, if any player os going to be signed i think its going to be grosso, he's Italian and wont cost alot (reason i mentioned Italian is cause there wont be a problem with non EU players)
  • zaki
    http://www.goal.com/en/news/11...

    and hey, new breaking news !! what do you guys think ?
  • zaki
    fair enough, paul. however, when we signed melo and caceres, there were paper talks which are really similar like this. so yeah, I hope the same things happened again.
  • PaulPuzzo
    I think it's only a paper talk, Zaki. I will not be satisfied until it says "Official".
  • zaki
    http://www.goal.com/en/news/10...

    what do you guys think about this ??
  • mickey
    well if you go for dossenna I hope he plays as badly for you guys as he did for italy against brazil in the confed cup. An own goal when juve plays inter scored by dossenna would be just as good as when dida won us that christmas derby back in 07.
  • georg
    well I think proably juve has a nice offer for grygera. big chances then both rafinha and grosso will come.

    if this were true , i will be higly impressed by secco's work over the past summer,...
    not only because of who he bought but especially for what prices and the way how he got them...

    lets be honnest:
    diego: relativly cheap
    melo: relatively expensive, but who saw that coming???
    canna: gratis
    caseras: gratis
    IF gosso: he will be cheap
    rafinha: who saw that coming???

    also he offloaded only b- players.

    maybe with a copple of years of expirience, he might actualy become a worthy succesor to moggi,... if he manage to offload zebina,secco already will become immortal for me :-)
    forza juve!
  • Fjd
    off topic a bit...tmrws CL group will be:
    1)Liverpool
    2)Juve
    3)Dynamo Kiev
    4)FC Zuurich

    *fingers crossed* so i can show off my mad futuristic skills :P
  • mike
    Daniel, thanks for the video.

    the translation in a nutshell: "Blanc and the President of Lyon have been in contact today. Lyon said that they are not willing to sell Grosso as they don't know how to replace him. Grosso then decided to intervene and with his agent went to speak with Lyon's director Lacombe. Grosso said that he did not want to stay at Lyon and he wanted only Juve. Juve wants him on a free transfer but Lyon would most likely want around 2M euros, they had paid Inter 7.3ME at the time. A meeting has been set for tomorrow in Monaco.
    Rafinha still far from Juve, it will be difficult to reach a deal since Shackle wants approx. 8M euros. This evening there were rumors that a deal was struck but in reality the two parties still in negotiations a deal will be really hard to reach."
  • KJ
    Why did you basically give us Miccoli for nothing?

    I know why, but still
  • Nnahoj
    Daniel, there's also a Juventude in Brazil, right?
  • michelangelo
    Y DID WE GET RID OF BALZARETTI??
  • KJ
    I can tell you Balzaretti is a stud...but Palermo has no reason to sell...Palermo has positioned itself to do some damage this season

    Unless Secco wants an Amauri type deal
  • Daniel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
    what are they saying? i think i heard something about Lyon being unable to replace Grosso. can't understand italian :P
  • Daniel
    Pablo, Jorid and Sergio: Rafinha has never played at the "brazilian Juventus". Neither São Paulo, as it says there. He did Londrina, PTSC (i guess it is that), Coritiba and Schalke only. The "brazilian Juventus" is called Juventus too because one of the founder's son was a Juve fan, and their shirt is like Torino's, because the other son was a Torino fan.
  • Calisi
    Nice writeup ale
  • Sergio
    Jorid: yes there is.
  • idze
    if we sign grosso and rafinha then even do i dont like i think de cegle is on his way to napoli. you will see and can any one put some youtube clipsm from rafinha i havent seen him playing. forza juve
  • Pablo
    Jorid, still according to wikipedia:

    "Clube Atlético Juventus was founded on April 20, 1924... The club changed its name to Cotonifício Rodolfo Crespi Futebol Clube in 1925,[2] and in 1930, the club changed its name again, to Clube Atlético Juventus,[3] because Count Rodolfo Crespi was a sympathizer of Juventus of Italy..."
  • Jorid
    Daniel pardon my ignorance but I checked out his website real quick and it said "clubes anteriores" and among teams such as Coritiba etc there was Juventus. Is there a Juventus in Brazil?
  • Jorid
    If only we buy both of these guys. =))))) I think I like Secco a bit more nowadays. Not that he has gotten any better as a DS(the Viola fat man could definitely still convince him to give them Chiellini, Diego and Giovinco for 2 mill + a box of chocolates), but because he has probably played a lot of FM and knows that Diego, Rafinha and Sissoko are some of the best at their respective positions haha. Those 3 have always been some of my favorite players to buy. And I also fucking love Wikipedia lol, just like it said that Caceres plays 4 Juve like a week before anything was official it has this description of Rafinha:"Rafinha is a Brazilian footballer who plays at right-back for Juventus FC in the Italian Serie A."
  • Daniel
    al, there is nothing on Rafinha's website. Rumor around here (Brasil) is that the deal is almost confirmed. The deal has to be sealed until monday 11:59pm, the final day for the mercato.
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