Cristian Molinaro and Tiago find new careers as Mattress-Men

By: agiamba | January 4th, 2010
   

I won’t believe any of the transfer market rumors until I see photographic evidence of our players in other teams shirts.

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Hooray! They’re gone.

Unless you’ve been sitting under a rock, you’ve heard the news. Bettega is back, and he’s ready to rock. He’s going Moggi-style and kicking people out of the club, whether they want to leave or not. As shown above, Tiago and Molinaro are the heaviest linked to move out, and Atletico Madrid (for which I have a soft spot) is rumored to be bidding to take both on loan. Full thoughts after the jump.

Molinaro- About time. I’m sorry, but I’ve never particularly liked the guy, and though he got better last season particularly in the defensive department, he’s never going to be the caliber fullback we need, and all of you know that. The only defense (ha) I could think for CR28 is that he’s young. Oh wait, he’s f@cking 26 now! As much as I hate Zebina, I cannot say the same for Molinaro. Sure, I don’t like him, but I can’t hate someone who gives their best consistently, sometimes they just aren’t good enough for the level. If I got signed up for Juve, for example, there’s no way in hell I’d be good enough to polish Del Piero’s boots. But you bet your ass I’d give it my best shot, and for that reason, I can’t hate on Molinaro. Particularly when he wasn’t signed to be a starter, remember, he was signed to be Chiellini’s reserve in Summer 07, before Giorgio switched to the center.

Two things are a bit curious about Molinaro, though. First, Ferrara made it pretty clear towards the end of the summer he was not happy with the fullbacks we had, so we got Grosso and Caceres. Obviously, that means Ferrara had little faith in Molinaro, so why did he play him when Grosso was given the day off over De Ceglie, who is much younger? PDC has shown significant improvement in my eyes since when he first came back, despite not being given a good run out in the first team. Molinaro is peaked, he probably won’t be getting any better, PDC hasn’t. The second odd thing is he’s been linked with Atletico and Stuttgart. Italians don’t go foreign that often, and if they do, it’s usually to England because of the money it’s the best championship in the world. Everyone’s eyes kinda raised when Zaccardo and Barzagli decided to go to Germany, and Maresca/Abbiati nearly got lost entirely in Spain.

A final thought on Molinaro- Rumors in the newspapers have said the fixed price for Atleti could be as low as 3million euros. Rumors about Stuttgart have stated 5.5mil. 3million would be dumber than Molinaro’s attempt at a backheel, but given Secco’s past work, I can believe it. Molinaro has played moderately well in the Champion’s League against players like Robben, he’s not too old, he’s not cup-tied, and he’s pretty experienced. We should aim for at least 7.5million, but of course, we won’t.

Tiago- When thinking about Tiago, I said to myself “I still can’t make up my mind on him.” Then I realized he’s been here for 2 and a half seasons. Get the hell out.

Seriously, though. There’s something I like about Tiago, maybe he reminds me of my chums from high school, but it’s definitely nothing to do with his footballing personality or talent. He’s looked good, then utterly mediocre for a month. Does anyone expect him to explode? At the moment, I’d just hope to get frequent “decent” games from him for a bit, but consistency is not his middle name. Two curious things about Tiago, though- First, it seems Juve can’t make up its mind on him either. We booted Almiron out of the club after 4 months, and Poulsen was attempted to be offloaded the next summer. For some reason he keeps being confirmed by the club, despite attempts behind-the-scene to kick him out. And then this summer, when I though he’d move on, Ferrara proclaims him a fundamental part of the midfield. The second thing is…he’s been here for 2 and a half seasons!

Win-Win- Again, I don’t know shit about the Bundesliga, so I cannot say much about whether Molinaro would help Stuttgart. Given their position in the table, maybe so. I can say that both Tiago and Molinaro would probably do well at Atletico, though. Having lived in Madrid and followed Atleti, to which I sort-of-do to the day (cheer for Atleti, not live in Madrid, alas) there are two things wrong with that team. Well, a lot more than that, but two things wrong with the squad. First, the defense makes ours look like Italy at the 1982 World Cup. Luis Perea is awful, and wouldn’t be good enough for our Primavera. Pernia, Pablo, and Juanito aren’t much better, and Ufjalusi is definitely crappier than he was for Fiorentina. Molinaro would be one of their better defenders, as difficult as it is to believe. The other problem is they don’t have a very good central midfielder. Maxi Rodriguez isn’t a CM, and Assuncao and Raul Garcia can run a lot and challenge, but not much in the way of passing or playmaking. Without the strong tactics or defensive midfielders of Serie A, I think Tiago could do pretty well in that department.

Essentially, they’ve had a pretty long run out at Juventus and both haven’t really risen to the challenge. Diego, Melo, and Poulsen deserve more chances to prove themselves, but after 2.5 years, eventually you have to make a decision.


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  • Alex
    I'll never get how Zebina ever got starting duties.
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  • Matteo
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  • Justin
    Maybe they're referring to Molinaro's ability to disappear into thin air leaving the defense screwed? It makes no sense at all.

    Oh and welcome, Matteo. Here's a corrected version for you.

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  • agiamba
    Re your question on cb v regista, Ivo, definitely CB. But right now, we need an elite CB and that is one that will not come in January, even if we did have the money for it.

    Re De Ceglie, I agree he's better as a left-mid right now, but Zambrotta was a right-winger for several years when he first signed. Some of PDC's early season performances at LB were great, I have no idea why he was dropped for Molinaro considering how awful he was.
  • agiamba
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  • agiamba
    Seems there's a new Roma troll around, good entertainment.

    It is indeed official, gentlemen, but it's on loan as you have all stated to Stuttgart. With the signing of Cristian Molinaro, VfB have secured themselves a pacy defender for the left side. The 26 year old proved his worth at both AC Siena and Juventus Turin with his speed, aerial ability and tackling strength.
    http://www.vfb-stuttgart.de/en...

    Aerial ability?
  • Matteo
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  • j
    actually i laughed when i read that tiago locked cobolli in the toilet (or cubicle?), that was surprising, i guess he really want to stay, or maybe it's for the money.
  • Justin
    Why has Tiago been with Juve for 2 years and is always assured of his role in the team?

    Because he locks people up in bathrooms and doesn't let them go out until they sign his contract.
  • Mwahaha alessio. All that time painting over Juve's black stripes only to find out Molinaro's going somewhere else. :P Oh well... at least the color's right. And by the way, it's a LOAN folks.

    Regarding De Ceglie, seems to me Paolo never felt very much at easy in the left-back position. The best games he had were those he was playing left mid, so all in all I don't PDC is anything but an emergency stop-gap for LB.
  • Sam
    Yay!! Its official!
  • j
    o i got it! ESPN's report!
  • j
    official? from which website?

    that is one transfer i really want to go through, schadenfreude? i'm sorry but he just didnt cut it at juve, i dont understand why under ranieri we offered him an extension.

    anyway how accurate are the italian papers? i mean there's no smoke without fire, so there should at least be talks over the players?
  • ooBia
    its official: Molinaro to Stuttgart. woohoo
  • Robee
    There's only one winger with Seba, so what's the point adam ?

    And the fact that it's a 4-4-1-1 makes it better for Giovinco... Tracking back will be less necessairy, plus we will always have 3 men defending in midfield, instead of the 2 you suggest... It's not such a big deal. De Ceglie balances things out, since he plays really defensively. With Marchisio and Melo in the centre sticking to their jobs, we have nothing to worry about. I'm looking forward to this.
  • bianconeri
    I don't think that Giovinco could play as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation. It requires alot of tracking back from him, I still think we should go back to the 4-2-3-1 formation.
  • Robee
    Well, a CB would be nice Ivo, but you certainly can forget about Kjaer... Not now, not even in the summer. Now he will definitely stay put at Palermo and in the summer, Zamparini will go for the cash as always. Juve is not able to pay that price anymore.
  • ned lowe
    i disagree with you alessio...maresca was not a failure at sevilla. he became a staple in a very good midfield at sevilla n turned in some very decent performances.
    as for molinaro...more than enuf has been said abt him, but one thing i never understood as how and why under ranieri's first spell he was our most regular player...he was more or less the first name on the teamsheet!
  • Ivo
    As long as Molinaro goes, I am happy.

    As for a new signing, are you guys more interested in a regista or a CB? I would much rather buy Kjaer now and pay a little more money than fight for him in the summer with all the rest of the world.

    We have tons of midfielders it seems like, but we desperately need a rock solid Chiellini to be partnered with a solid CB.

    Just my opinion, of course.
  • agiamba
    Roberto- Accurate? C'mon, there's no editing there! Haha, 6 hours in an airplane followed by 5-hours at work with nothing to do, that is the end result.

    Truth be told, I expect Molinaro to head out, but I think Tiago will be with us until June. It's too bad, because Tiago's salary is what we really want to get off the block, particularly if we're interested in moving for Zapater or Ledesma.
  • ooBia
    if this is true, i am the happiest man alive. NEVER like tiago no matter how decent he may play. and molinaro, as you said alessio, is not Juve material at all.. wish them both luck wherever they go, just leave..

    next: Amauri.
  • Matteo
    well ROMA ROCK
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  • finally
  • btw alessio, honestly you must not have had a lot to do today judging by how accurate those Aletico Madrid jerseys look. a final bid of respect to those two? lol
  • I can't believe my eyes. The day has finally come there's a post on this blog about these two leaving our club. I'm in heaven.
  • Sofia
    alessio - GREAT POST! i definitely think its time we sell these two! Regarding Molinaro...if Stuttgart are giving us more, send him there! As far as Tiago goes, send him to which ever sorry team will take him! I don't care how much just get rid of him!
  • Great post, Alessio. I agree with what you said. Juve definitely needs to clear out some of our dead wood and bring in some new players. I've heard rumours saying they might go for D'Agostino again...but it's likely just that...rumours.
  • gaetano
    I think the 4 4 1 1 is a good idea. Also Camo when back can play on the right.
  • Sam
    Nnahoj, the match against Chelsea at home in the Champions League. He was boming up and down the Left flank was defending and to a certain extent was also creating... i know it's amazing!
  • Sam
    Yeah al I've read that as well and its not a bad idea in my opinion. But we dont have wingers? I mean Giovinco can play on the Left who is going to play on the right? The only thing i can think of Is maybe moving Giovinco to the right and playing De Ceglie on the Left. It's not a bad idea but we dont have the player to suit it at the moment.
  • Nnahoj
    "The only good memory i have of Molinaro is against Chelsea at home, that night he was on fire probably the best player on the pitch for us. "

    Huh???
  • al
    good to know that we are able to get rid those two guys.

    btw, i read somewhere that it was bettega who gave recommendation to buy tiago, back then when he was our consultant. now tiago is among the first to get kicked out of vinovo.

    and on other note -- i've posted this before, it seems that we are considering to employ once more 4-4-2, (or 4-4-1-1, with diego being the first 1). what do you guys think?
  • Sam
    To this day I still cant believe we got rid of Federico Balzaretti and got Molinaro. The only good memory i have of Molinaro is against Chelsea at home, that night he was on fire probably the best player on the pitch for us. But other than that its hard to think of any other good performances. His poor crossing, "that" back heal and his idiotic mistakes are something to forget.

    I don't see why Stuttgart would go for him, they do have Artur Boka who is A LOT better than him.

    Tiago, everyone has just had enough of his 2+ year of mediocrity, for someone who has played for Chelsea and Lyon he never put in a really good performance waste of money!
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