Calciopoli: Giu Le Mani Della Juve

By: alessio | August 20th, 2008

This post was written by my friend Giuseppe Solinas about Calciopoli and what some Juventini are doing to try and restore our name. I’ll try and get him to pop over here and answer questions/comments. If anyone else wants to do a guest posting, feel free to ask!

It has been well over two years now since Juventus were tossed into the abyss of Serie B. Two electric years that produced plenty to talk about from transfers to comebacks, yet there remains what appears to be a lingering obsession from Juventini and non-Juventini alike regarding the biggest scandal in Serie A history. What is unfortunate is how very few really have a clue as to what occurred.

It is a case full of misconceptions. There are far too many for one to clarify within a single article. Revelations always seem to be too conducive to arguing between fans. Anti-Juventini don’t want to know that Juventus were actually found not guilty of match fixing according to the judges (their rationale found in the verdict posted on the FIGC archive). Not guilty of match fixing, attempted match fixing, bribery etc. That is simply inconvenient.

Nor are anti-Juventini interested in the fact that Telecom’s managers have now been arrested regarding evidence tampering (wire transcript tampering and wire tap manipulation). It is “rubbish” or “hearsay” or the all too common “conspiracy theory” to them despite the fact that a Telecom employee (Caterina Plateo) confessed to Milan prosecutors and trials are occurring as a result where Telecom Managers (Cipriani/Ghioni/Tavarolli) have agreed to co-operate with authorities. Perhaps their former Security Chief Adamo Bove would have done the same, had he not committed suicide two weeks after Plateo’s confession.

So what now? Those who think it is over are quite wrong. Tribunals continue to sanction Moggi. His suspension was extended by 14 months as a result of the SIM Card trial. Amazingly no recorded calls exist and better yet, no one knows who he was calling. It was assume that if Moggi dialed a number that connected to system in Bari, that he was calling Paparesta because he resided there. There were many geographic coincidences like this which were used to build the case.

Despite the referees proving (hotel receipts, airline tickets, etc.) that they were not in those areas during the hours of those calls Moggi was convicted again essentially for calling someone from a foreign carrier.

The GEA case ended as well but this time the prosecutors ran out of time to make a coherent accusation. Player after player defended Moggi, while those set to accuse him had their arguments falter in court. Finally Moggi walked away unscathed.

What of Juventus however? The team’s new managers have stated that it is not financially convenient to appeal (maybe the New FIAT Consultant Guido Rossi (former President of TIM/Telecom Italia) convinced them of that). There is however one group fighting under everybody’s radar.

Giuseppe Belvisio, a lawyer in Italy, created a group Called “Giu Le Mani Dalla Juve” in the wake of the trial. This group is a Class Action Legal Association financed by its members. In a recent letter from Belvisio himself to the members, he indicated that the process is long but that the association is preparing appeals for the European Court System.

The first steps have already been taken. The Association must first be refused domestically both at the Regional and Federal level in order to qualify for the Continental courts. The TAR Lazio (Regional) has already refused their appeal and in the coming months the State Council (Federal) is expected to do the same. The Association has prepared appeals to the European Court of Commerce and now the European Civil Rights Court. Their lawyer is the winner of the now famous Bosman Case, Luc Mission.

Giuseppe Belvisio has indicated that he is adamant that in due time, the proper courts at their disposal will overturn the verdicts created in the media frenzy that was Farsopoli. If this were to occur, in addition to the two Scudetti going back to their rightful place, Juventus’ shareholders would stand to receive some 230 Million Euros in damages which are to be used to recapitalize the team.

The Bosman Case took five years…for Juventus it has been nearly two and a half. Patience Juventini, justice is coming.

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  • calisi |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pm

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    Chimenti just shot (and scored) on Kalac??? ROFL

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  • adam |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pm

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    And we just won the whole thing. Chimenti sucks but he’s one hell of a goalie when it comes to penalties, his only edge over Buffon, he even scored one too.

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  • adam |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pm

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    Nedved was limping back to the locker room with the help of someone. I wouldn’t be surprised if he missed the first few games.

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  • roberto |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pm

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    Yea I wouldn’t be either. Although, something tells me he’s fine.

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  • roberto |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:27 pm

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    Kalac is such a joke. Milan need two new fucking keepers. Both Dida and Kalac look retarded out there.

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  • calisi |  August 21st, 2008 at 2:27 pm

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    Just throw Giovinco in there and give Pavel his rest if he needs it :D

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  • alessio |  August 21st, 2008 at 5:00 pm

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    Juve v. Napoli penalties

    Juve v. Milan penalties: (Lol @ Chimenti)

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  • Sally |  August 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pm

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    my site is a personal one i’d post this article just to stick it up to my friends who like to tease me bout calciopoli :(

    anyway interesting stats, got it off from another site:

    injuries from games vs milan

    Berlusconi Cup 2005
    1. Buffon out for 6 months

    Berlusconi Cup, January 2007
    2. Chiellini out for a month
    3. Palladino out for 3 weeks
    4. Boumsong out for a week

    Berlusconi Cup 2008
    5. Chiellini out for 45 days to 2 months

    Serie A
    6. Sissoko finished the match but he didn’t play in the following 2 weeks after Bonera injured him (Bonera was red carded for that tackle)

    Birra Moretti
    7. Nedved ?

    And Gattuso’s red card on the last match we played them before Calciopoli. He went on Nedved’s leg on purpose.

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  • alessio |  August 21st, 2008 at 7:11 pm

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    Nedved should be ok. Juventus is calling it a contusion, aka bruising to his left calf, should be nothing serious and they said he’ll probably be good to go against Artmedia, 2nd leg.

    Trez is a bit worrying. I read an extended article on his injury and apparently he has had problems in one of his knees for a while, with the tendons. He had surgery for it in 2004, and he’s been relatively ok since. This January it reoccured to an extent, he played through the pain most of the time, (probably why his scoring slumped!) and it popped up during training again. The Gazzetta sounded confident that major knife-surgery could be avoided, it could either be a 2-3week rest or some laser+ultrasound very light “surgery” which would be 1-2months. Juventus medical doctors are still examining the situation.

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  • calisi |  August 22nd, 2008 at 5:45 am

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    If anyone is interested, a few friends of mine are gonna play yahoo fantasy calcio for serie a. I can give you the group number, it is all just for fun, not getting too serious with it as it seems very hard lol.

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  • alessio |  August 22nd, 2008 at 3:34 pm

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    With the Bratislava game being so near, part of the squad will need to rest as a precaution, to recover in the best possible way from their minor physical problems and be at their best for the European engagement. Some of Juve’s stars will therefore only be spectators in Villar Perosa, among them Buffon, Del Piero, Nedved, Iaquinta, Zanetti, Giovinco, De Ceglie, Zebina, Marchionni, Salihamidzic, Grygera and Manninger, alongside youngster Esposito and Chiellini.

    The Bianconeri’s medical staff have released details regarding a few of the above players, i.e. Nedved, Salihamidzic, Marchionni, Zanetti, Chiellini, Manninger and Grygera.

    Nedved had to leave the pitch near the end of the game against AC Milan as he was hit hard to his left calf, but should have recovered in time for Sunday morning’s training session. The same for Salihamidzic, who came off due to slight pain in his left Achilles tendon.

    Marchionni and Zanetti are on the mend. Marchionni is recovering well and will undergo another ultrasound scan next week. If the results are positive, he’ll be able to start training again. Zanetti also awaits a positive result from the scan he’ll be undergoing on Monday.

    Meanwhile, Manninger has been suffering from a pain under his left shoulder-blade after playing with Austria on Wednesday. Grygera also hurt himself playing for his national team, as he was hit hard to his knee during the game against England.

    And finally, Chiellini. The defender is recovering a little more quickly than predicted and he’ll already be in Turin on Monday to continue therapies for the injury he picked up at the Berlusconi Trophy.

    Claudio Ranieri can take comfort in the fact three important players like Camoranesi, Marchisio and Trezeguet are back in the team, though. This is the group of players available tomorrow: Amauri, Camoranesi, Chimenti, Ekdal, Legrottaglie, Marchisio, Mellberg, Molinaro, Poulsen, Sissoko and Trezeguet. To these a few Youth Team players will be added, so they’ll be facing their team mates while wearing the first team shirt. They are: Ariaudo, Pasquato, Rossi, Nocchi, Giuseppe Giovinco, Duravia, De Paola, D’Elia and Daud.

    On the other side, Massimiliano Maddaloni will have 21 lads at his disposal, some of whom borrowed from the Berretti team.

    http://juventus.com/site/eng/NEWS_newseventi_FBFC6A5A83C84706A2348FE5640F2E6B.asp

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  • Sally |  August 22nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm

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    thats more than ‘a few’ from the primavera! Goooo ekdal !!

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  • roberto |  August 23rd, 2008 at 6:03 am

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    Anyone know of a stream for the Juventus vs. Primavera game today?

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  • roberto |  August 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 am

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    Boom! Found one… http://www.justin.tv/darkhector1995

    Game starts at 5pm (local time- Italy).

    Wait… wait… nope it’s shit, forget I said anything.

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  • Giuseppe |  August 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 am

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    Sorry guys I was away while this got posted so I have a fair bit to read. I’ll answer the questions that I can as I find them.

    Adam,
    Juventus was actually relegated for Article 1 Violations (Unsportsmanlike Conduct) as opposed to Article 6 Violations (Match Fixing/Attempted Match Fixing). The Unsportsmanlike Conduct consists of swearing, insults, rude gestures, etc. An example is the Totti spitting on Poulsen incident. The maximum penalty for excessive cases according to the Constitution of Sport Justice in Italy (CGS) is a fine and 3-5 points. Instead Juventus were handed enough of a point deduction to relegate the team after the FIGC (and in particular Guido Rossi) allowed for the first time ever an accumulation of article 1 violations equaling an Article 6 violation. So 40 insulting conversations (which I listened to) apparently amounted to the equivalent of a fixed match. Much the same as 18 “J Walking” fines amounts to say a Grand Theft Auto?

    They called the “Accumulated” Article 1 charge the “Structured Article”. It was a one time exception and no longer exists as a rule. Bottom line it had nothing to do with cheating.

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  • Giuseppe |  August 23rd, 2008 at 6:46 am

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    John,
    First of all Juventus is in no position to win or lose because our puppet management won’t dare disturb the status quo in the current FIGC regime. The shareholders however will eventually win. I have little doubt. It will not happen in Italy. The courts in Italy cater to power and have little room for justice and ethics. There you win if you have money or political power and we the fans/shareholders have none. The European system however is respected for its professionalism and GLMDJ is appealing in two European Courts. Be patient though, it won’t be tomorrow. First the Association needs to be turned away in all Italian Courts (only one remains) and then the doors to Europe can officially be opened. It is important to note that UEFA have already stated that whatever is decided in European Civil Court, they will ensure gets respected so if the FIGC doesn’t want to co-operate they can kiss UEFA status good-bye. The money issue is simple. If the shareholders were handed 230 million it would get paid over 40 years or so by all responsible (primarily FIGC and Telecom).

    KJ,
    Don’t be so quick to label Moggi. For all the accusations and hearsay, thus far the courts have only served to clear his name (albeit to no avail).

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  • Giuseppe |  August 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 am

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    Alessio,
    As far as the Internal Job story goes, it’s actually quite simple. For years Juventus Management were under pressure to relinquish financial control to the rest of the IFIL Group (FIAT). Calciopoli did just that by force. Many question why a company would allow such a thing if it means taking a huge financial loss and the answer is simple…sponsorships. Lucrative deals were struck between Juventus and never before seen companies at the Delle Alpi like Gazzetta Dello Sport (partially Inter owned and operated) and Telecom (partially Inter owned and operated) so the loss only lasted a few months. In truth the stock price plummeted and the Elkanns showed up in April of 2007 and bought up a further 35% of the shares with 104.5 million Euros essentially becoming 65% owners again. Now the stock has stabilized and already we are hearing that the team’s shares may be up for sale.

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  • Sofia |  August 23rd, 2008 at 10:46 am

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    great post!! it is funny how many people think they know what happened when really they don’t.

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  • Marco Pantanella |  August 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm

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    Pasquato was on fire today for the Juventus A vs. Juventus B match. Six goals for the lad. :)
    http://sport.kataweb.it/articolo/sport/festa-juve-villar-perosa-pasquato-si-scatena/3276994

    Apparently, he’s on his way out to Empoli or Grosseto for a one-year loan spell.

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  • John |  August 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 pm

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    Thanks for that Giuseppe. Really interesting to read, and alot of things I didn’t know. Hope fully justice will be done. There are alot of ignorant fans around who lable us as match fixers without knowing the truth.

    On a lighter-er note, I bought our new gold kit today :D And when I visit Sorrento next week will be sure to find a shop that does name printing so that I can have ADP printed on :)

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  • alessio |  August 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm

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    Thank god the pre-season friendlies are over, eh?

    Empoli or Grosseto would be nice..but he should pop over to Bari. They need another speedy striker (had Lanzafame, but now he’s wearing pink) Bari is chasing promotion, and the coach is Juve legend Antonio Conte. Nothing wrong there!

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  • Sally |  August 24th, 2008 at 3:59 am

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    Sorrento where?

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  • Giuseppe |  August 24th, 2008 at 8:18 am

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    I got my kits in the mail from Juvestore while I was away. I got the Yellow Goalie Kit (Buffon), the home kit (Chiellini) and the Away (Giovinco). They are awesome. I’m wondering if they will introduce a third. Hopefully they put the black Goalie kit on sale too.

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  • Sofia |  August 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

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    John – Sorrento is beautiful have fun!!!

    Pasquato to Empoli on a one year loan ala Seba Giovinco

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  • Giuseppe |  August 25th, 2008 at 2:43 am

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    Why does this say I’m American?

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