A Tale of Two Coaches: Zaccheroni and Ferrara speak out about Juventus

By: agiamba | June 6th, 2010
   

In the last few weeks, Ferrara and Zaccheroni have opened up about their short-lived tenures at Juventus now that neither are officially hired by the club. They both have spoken about Diego’s future, whether Del Piero is a problem, etc. Fascinatingly, they come to very, very different conclusions. Before reading the interviews, I would have expected Zaccheroni to be very bitter, and Ferrara a bit less so. Zaccheroni turns out to not be bitter at all, and Ferrara seems moreso, understandably. Both agree on one thing- between the injuries, incompetent management, and poor mercato, the bad season was neither fault. Both interviews after the jump.

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Ciro Ferrara, speaking to the Gazzetta dello Sport:

The situation at Juve had precedence over mine, in the fear of disrupting the environment, I wasn’t able to speak freely. It was better to be silent.

The numbers say that after your sacking, Juventus didn’t improve.

Zac admitted the same thing, who in my regards, was correct. I’m not fixated on statistics, the situation is different month by month. But there exists one certain fact: it wasn’t all my fault.

Who do you send this message to? To the club? The fans? To the players who after your sacking spoke a bit too much?

I have no malice in regard to Juventus or its fans/people, because 16 great years cannot be forgotten because of 6 months. Last week I rescinded my contract, because I want to return to work as a coach, not because I wanted to leave Torino. Having said this, in the days after my sacking I read statements that hurt me. Players are made that way, but phrases like “now, we’re training well” or “Zac finally makes us work on tactics” as if I hadn’t spent hours on the pitch explaining formations and plans…let’s say that my successor was more prepared. The players who got a worse average number of points with him are really donkeys.”

Let’s return to your management. What faults do you recognize?

In general, I don’t want alibis, I feel responsible for the failure. The good start and subsequent rain of praises in some way made the tension dip. At first I was very demanding and things went smoothly. Then I softened a little. Unconsciously, I must have thought that the difficulty was behind me. You can see the inexperience of which I am accused there.

At the beginning, you were often compared to Guardiola, but it doesn’t seem that the comparison holds. The Catalan [Guardiola] didn’t coach his old teammates.

At the end, to have to coach some friends was a problem. I always chose with the head, not with the heart, but I wasn’t always understood.

Before accepting Laporta’s offer [President of Barcelona], Guardiola made the precondition of selling Ronaldinho and Deco because they had “conditioned” the locker room, they had too much influence. Were you tempted to do the same with Del Piero?

It’s unthinkable for Del Piero to be sold. Ronaldinho played for Barcelona for 5 years, Ale represents far longer at Juventus. There’s a relationship, there is a great history. But he always wants to play, and at times it becomes a problem. It could be the same next year.

Felipe Melo, a Juventus quality player, or no?

“He has the quality, but he needs to learn to make himself liked by his teammates. He is anything but a bad guy, but he trained with a lot of arrogance and made many angry, and if someone disrespects others on the field, you notice.”

Will Diego be kept, or offloaded?

“Absolutely kept. He is a good player, and he trains hard and very conscientious. He needs two strikers, who move forward deep because his strength is the pass; unfortunately the tendency of those I had was to come to him. This is why he wasn’t explosive.”

But on the mercato, you didn’t have a voice?

“The call from Juventus [to coach] came all of a sudden. Cannavaro and Diego were already signed, but I had no problems with them. I got along well with them. Grosso I wanted, and I say this because it offended me to read that Lippi had built this team, as if I was merely holding the seat warm for him to come a year later”

Lippi should have returned as a Director General?

A more plausible hypothesis. But he wouldn’t have made the squad selection.

It is always said that among the management, it was missing a concrete “man of the pitch.” A fair criticism?

“The complex period of after-calciopoli wasn’t all wasted, immediately back in Serie A, then the Champion’s League, and 2nd place. It went badly this season, and many of us have paid the consequences. The authority of a football man is missed during moments of crisis, when the management is talking to the squad in a sharp tone, and the players you could read in their faces, them thinking, “Who the hell are you to tell me what I must do?”

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Zaccheroni, speaking to Il Giornale:

If he remained at Juventus, Alberto Zaccheroni would have been the only coach in Serie A who had won a Scudetto. Him and Mourinho, now both are gone.

“He is someone who always needs to have an enemy, but then he gets offensive and that’s not something I appreciate. Tactically, he’s not very good. I sent a few coaches to study him at Riscone, during a training camp of Inter. Every night they called me and said,” Mister, we went, but we’re not learning anything here. Now that he realised Inter would’ve won even without him, he has chosen to leave. President Massimo Moratti had always told me his dream Coach was Fabio Capello.” But at Madrid, Mourinho will do well. No one knows like him how to motivate the players.

He left calcio, but you…

I wouldn’t have kept myself on, without 4th place. However, everything was all done, they asked me to renew my contract, I said I didn’t have time, too much work, 14 games in 42 games and more than half the players injured or carrying injuries while playing.

How did it end this way?

The turning point was Siena, 3-0 after a few minutes, then Grygera lost Maccarone and the team collapsed, then we went to London and there was the disaster against Fulham. In a team, you need quality, legs, and if there weren’t, and lastly, a calm head, and after Siena that didn’t exist anymore. We were there without Iaquinta, Amauri, Buffon, Chiellini, Sissoko, Marchisio, and maybe I forgot someone, whereas Fulham had few absences. In general, the first half was solid, and then the second we disappeared. Thankfully, we at least had Del Piero.

Why Del Piero?

“He doesn’t have the strength he used to, but he was the only who consistently put the ball in the net. I used him sparingly, I substituted him, I put him on the bench, he always followed my instructions. He doesn’t have 90minutes left, but he remains one of the best. And with him, I never had any misunderstandings, not even that time of the Marchisio substitution that I didn’t do. They wrote that he was like Totti, that he decided himself the coaching decisions. But even in this situation, we had the same ideas.”

And with the others?

“I was welcomed and wished well by all, they knew in what conditions I was working. Blanc is underestimated, even if he had put a team together of great quality. Felipe Melo was exceptional, during training one on one, no one wanted to mark him, he has an atomic physical strength. Sissoko went through everything, he lived a tragedy, it ended up that he had to take to care of 6 of his wife’s younger siblings, psychologically he was destroyed. Buffon suggested me as coach of the Nazionale, Diego is a world-class player who wasn’t able to adapt to Serie A. He will leave Juventus. When Del Neri arrived at Porto he said: “Diego? A great talent, but he will not play with me.”

So everyone with the coach…

Except for one. He came to me and said, “Mister, I am here but don’t count on me.”

And now?

“Juventus is building a great team. Also because Giraudo, even if he’s living in London, continues to run the assets of the Agnellis. (notably Umbero, father of Andrea) Juventus will be the primary antagonist to Inter.

WHERE THEY AGREE:
-Injuries predetermined the season
-Diego is a great player

WHERE THEY DISAGREE:
-Felipe Melo in training: Ferrara says he disrespected his teammates and was arrogant, Zaccheroni says he was a model professional and worked hard
-Diego’s Problems, and Future: Ferrara indicates the team wasn’t built properly with him, which I am in full agreement with. Zaccheroni says he didn’t adapt properly to Serie A. Ferrara says Diego must stay, Zaccheroni doesn’t opine on it, merely stating that he will be sold.
-Del Piero’s role in the team: Ferrara says he did occasionally cause problems by his desire to play, Zaccheroni said he was a perfect professional and never challenges his coaching role

So there’s a lot of questions these two bring up, one thing to consider is their history. Zaccheroni is an experienced coach, and thus perhaps never had issues with Felipe Melo or Del Piero in terms of authority, which might explain why Ferrara did. Overall, I understand Ferrara’s anger, I think it is curious, in an interview last summer he said he never really wanted to be a coach, but now it looks like he’s certain to continue. I also think Zaccheroni conducted his interview with class, despite questionable player selections, I think Zac is a decent coach and could do very well with a mid-table/EL team.

And lastly……WHO was that player who refused to work with Zac? People on VecchiaSignora.com generally have agreed that it was Camoranesi. I figure we can rule out Del Piero, Felipe Melo, Buffon, Sissoko, and Diego, who he spoke well of. People generally agree it’s unlikely to be Cannavaro and Trezeguet, given their demeanor and playing time under Zac. (Although it could be Canna, given that he knew Juve wouldn’t sign him longer, and he was preferred by Lippi/Ferrara.) That leaves a few others, and some have nominated players who didn’t play much under Zac. Not sure that could be it though, given that I assume the player mentioned it to start with, so I don’t think it’d be someone who didn’t play much under Zac.

Plenty to discuss in the two interviews. Thoughts?


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  • Rinaldo
  • Jorid
    Thanks for the hat tip Alessio.
    Are you any good with Physics lol? My Physics book was written by some Cornell prof named Alan Giambattista haha.
  • Boo
    I'd be really disappointed if Diego is gone. His ability to create and his ability to score are completely dependent on having the right players next to him. I can't even count the number of times he set up a brilliant scoring opportunity this year but lacked a skilled and/or in-shape teammate to take advantage. And becuase his teammates were rarely a threat, it was easy for defenses to keep him from scoring on his own. It wasn't Serie A that baffled Diego, I think it was his own dysfunctional team. Give him a chance with better, and healthier, teammates and I think he'll shine.
  • Josef
  • agiamba
    Daniel you are correct, but it may be because we need a revolution. Even in the bad years under Moggi we only needed a few tweaks. Don't see us challenging for the Scudetto next year, but if we build a team, I'll be (relatively) happy.
  • Andy
    In my opinion this mercato is kinda strange. Wasn’t it Moggi who said no one should ever buy more than 4 starters? Our lineup is changing too much, that isn’t Moggi-a-like.

    I imagine that's only if your team is already good.

    I'm not sure if it should be a hard and fast rule anyway. Inter brought in 5 new starters and they won the treble.
  • bulle
    Pepe is gonna be a substitute if both he and Krasic are bought. Don't really see the Montolivo thing happening. Can't see Marotta paying similar huge amounts of cash for players like Secco did. Really hope Giovinco could play as a left winger in the 4-4-2 like Alex mentioned. Would be horrible to see him leave. I'd rather see Maggio playing at the RB position than Motta. Motta might be a bit risky since he didn't even get any playing time at Roma. Love the idea of Criscito returning since he can play at LB and as left midfielder.


    Maggio-Bonucci-Chiellini-Criscito
    Krasic-Melo-Marchisio-Giovinco
    Dzeko/Pazzini-Iaquinta
  • Daniel
    In my opinion this mercato is kinda strange. Wasn't it Moggi who said no one should ever buy more than 4 starters? Our lineup is changing too much, that isn't Moggi-a-like.
    That is, if Andrea is taking any opinion from Luciano.
  • Forza Juve
    The mystery player probably was Camo, cuz I remember reading an article once where he was quoted saying that he was pissed at Juve medicals cuz of his injury (sustained at Bari?)He said it could have been prevented had Juve medicals been better, so he was probably just generally pissed off at Juve...
  • Rinaldo
  • Rinaldo
    Does anyone else think it's strange that Fiorentina have signed D'Agostino when they have a very similar player in Montolivo? Did anyone else notice Goal.com linking Montolivo with us? Am I reading too much into all of this? :P
  • georg
    it looks like krasic is coming in:
    http://www.football-italia.net...

    If he comes i hope they conclude the deal surely before the world cup, so doubding interesting clubs wont be convinced to outbid the juve offer:)

    same counts for good defenders, a world cup can do strange things to prospects price tag.
  • Edgar
    Wonder if the player was Paolucci, he was already pissed off at the management.
  • cde2ew
    Who cares!!! My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He- is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at an age gap dating site[_www. SEEKCOUGAR com_]---a nice and free place for Younger- Women and Older Men, or Older Women and Younger Men, to interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or- tell your friends
  • bianconeri
    Really cool World Cup calender if anyone's interested;

    http://www.marca.com/deporte/f...
  • Alex
    ------------buffon--------------
    motta-bonucci-chiellini-criscito
    krasic-marchisio-melo-giovinco
    ------del piero-dzeko-----------
  • Sam
    Jezz, just imagine, Giovinco and Krasic coming from the wings with pace and creativity, and Diego in the trequertista role either finishing or creating for someone like a Pazzini! Lips licking stuff tHere, not to mention a Marchsio and or a Momo/Melo there supporting! OMG!!!!!!
  • Robee
    Krasic would be a very nice addition. But what the hell is up with buying Pepe ? An overrated player imo... Probably not too expensive, so I'm not completely against it, 'though I'd rather see someone else.

    What bothers me the most right now is talks of as well Diego, as Giovinco leaving. I think I'd rather support Parma if that happens... I'm not serious about that, but come one... If anyone ever wondered what damage an attack like the following (Krasic, Diego, Giovinco; Dzeko/Iaquinta) could do, then you understand my reaction.
  • Godson Hernandez
    "And I feel bad for Chiellini if they are only offering him 3.5 million a year while Amauri makes around 4.5."

    @adam, really wouldn't matter to me if Amauri were sold. If he earns 50 million elsewhere i don't give a f***
  • Moon Knight
    I dont think Amauri makes that much. AFAIK Buffon is the highest paid player with 5 m E/yr. Trez, Alex, Diego are after him. Then comes Poulsen (3.3 m E) & then Amauri.
  • bulle
    Adam - Agree that Chiellini deserves better especially with our worst players earning much more than him. €3.5million a year is not bad for a defender, it's Amauri that earns €4.5 million too much but Chiellini is more than a defender, he is everything the club stands for.
  • Sam
    hmm D'ago just confirmed signed with Fiorentina, great signing there, they really know what they are doing there in Florence :/
  • bianconeri
    And I feel bad for Chiellini if they are only offering him 3.5 million a year while Amauri makes around 4.5.
  • bianconeri
    Yea i don't buy it either bulle, especially since their source is tuttosport.
  • bulle
    According to Goal.com (the most unreliable source on the web) Juve have agreed to sign Krasic from Moskova CSKA and are now working on a deal to extend Chiellini's deal till 2015 with an increase in salary. Hopefully it is true!
  • rhaaj
    i too think the player is camo. camo had a brilliant run with ferrara & then he didnt do too well, after his return from injury. i remember being very enthusiastic about his return from injury given his form earlier in the season & i was honestly disappointed with his performances in a few matches.
  • vignesh
    watch the news of Juventus president news
    about Diego

    and mari kempes interview at

    http://sports4ready.blogspot.c...
  • Blanda_Amania
    Oh, and I see where Momo's been. Poor thing.
  • mufid
    what about getting oddo and huntelaar for sissoko and poulsen. if true, then it could be moratti who hired marotta and del neri.
  • agiamba
    Hat-tip to Jorid for posting the VecchiaSignora.com thread in the last post.
  • Mohammed
    Agree with u Alessio . I think that person is Camo . He is a Professional that lacks DISCIPLINE . Sorry guys but I have to admit this, i miss Camo when he is injured but i regret having him at Juve when he loses his head on the pitch e.g. Against Arsenal in the CL .
  • agiamba
    papai, I still think it's pretty incomparable. No disrespect to Leonardo, I agree what he did at Milan was hella impressive given the circumstances. But I think Juve's situation was worse- absurd amounts of injuries, and a weak management. Zaccheroni I won't comment on, because I think he was even more screwed than Juve at the start. I agree with him that he started to turn things around, but one week against Siena and Fulham completely wrecked team morale, unrecoverably so.

    Daniel, I thought Diego would stay. Then reading Marotta's statements....and Zaccheroni revealing the Diego-Porto-DelNeri past, I don't have much hope. Shame, the kid gave his best, played well, and doesn't deserve to be booted out.

    Which brings me to another thought, Del Neri's past with current Juventini. He coached Amauri and Legrottaglie at Chievo, decent history with Amauri but he launched Legro to Italian fame, got him the transfer to Juve. Legro will stay because Del Neri probably gets along well with him (Legro seems pretty non-confrontational) Amauri might still be on the way out, don't think Andrea Agnelli or Marotta like him much. The other player is of course Diego at Porto, am I missing anyone?
  • Blanda_Amania
    It had to be someone with clout and seniority. Someone who feels that their support is important to the manager. Camo or Canna.
  • Dumitru
    I guess no one is really to blame. Ferrara came in as a caretaker, won all three remaining games, Guardiola happened to win a treble and so everyone thought this is the model to follow. Of course, the fact that there were no good coaches available played it's part too. Zacherroni should not be blamed either, guy didn't coach in a while. Again, there were no better options.
  • Chris
    " The authority of a football man is missed during moments of crisis, when the management is talking to the squad in a sharp tone, and the players you could read in their faces, them thinking, “Who the hell are you to tell me what I must do?”"

    Kinda a proves a point I was saying to a friend who is an Inter fan, I was like "You can't expect a team to succeed with such poor management from the directors" and he's response was "that doesn't mean much man"
  • I just want to say this and will need to stay calm here... if we get rid of Diego just because Del Neri plays nothing else but 4-4-2 it will be a complete and utter disgrace!

    Lets look at the facts. We all know that he is an unbelievable player. He comes in, gets played out of position in one of the toughest leagues in the world. Contributed to over 50% of our goals none the less and you want to get rid of him!

    YOU SHOULD BUILD A TEAM AROUND HIM!... See More

    What a complete and utter disgrace. Seeing that Marotta is looking to sell him and Del Neri not looking to change makes me angry and lose all confidence i had in Agnelli, Marotta and Del Neri.

    If we lose both Giovinco and Diego this transfer period, it will be sickening. That would be worse than Blanc and the other douche ever did
  • Alessio, whether leonardo would have struggled at juve or not is a hypothetical question. What we do know is that he led an aging team, which had sold its biggest stars and had no reinforcements bar a flop like Huntelaar, full of prima donnas like ronaldinho and whose president is an interfering maniac - to CL direct qualification. Yeah maybe he lost all the big games, maybe 50% of those victories were flukes, but you cant argue with numbers over a season in serie A. For me, Leo's man management and resource management are miles ahead of either Ferrara or Zac.

    Anyways, back to Juventus. Although it breaks my heart, but the only two players who can say this are either Trez or Camo. Both of them had been used sparingly by Zac and are potentially transfer listed. Knowing the dumbass Secco, he might have dropped in a training session, and made faces at the players while singing "youre gonna get sold now".
  • agiamba
    Leonardo did extremely well, but I think he would have struggled just as much at Juve this season, between the injuries, the weak management, etc.

    Regarding the "whodunit" question, I also think it's Camo. I don't see a young player saying that (except Balotelli) it would be far out of line, I see an experienced player. So for me, it would be Camo or Canna. Canna, while leaving for Dubai FC and a pick of Ferrara, is ultraprofessional, whereas Camo is kind of indisciplined. That's why I think it's Camo, which is disappointing.
  • Both of them should learn something from Leonardo, who performed a miracle at AC Milan this season.
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